counterfire Counterfire, which went live today, has significantly raised the bar for the British left’s web presence. To take one trivial example it allows you to immediately share by e mail, export the pdf or, and this is the clever bit, hear any article on the site. The trick there though is to be patient and click only once unless you want to hear the same article being read two or three times  with a split second delay. How well used this will be is anyone’s guess but it does allow people with visual impairments access to online sources of information that may have previously not been available to them.

Established by ex members of the SWP including Lindsey German, John Rees, Clare Solomon and Elaine Graham-Leigh Counterfire describes itself as “a news and theory website from the movements, for the movements.” With an eye to symbolism it was launched on the 100th International Women’s Day and says it is edited by Ady Cousins and an elected editorial board. There is no obvious reference to anyone’s recent or long term political history. Neither is there any identification with any political current nor a hint that the site is representing the views of an organisation.

The first day’s content reflects the recent activity of its contributors, with a lot of coverage of war related issues such as Joe Glenton and an advert for a meeting on Islamophobia. Plugging a big gap it has more material on feminism than you find on most left sites with major features of Nina Power’s and Lindsey German’s recent meeting, an article on Inessa Armand and a report of an entertaining action against Tesco’s jimjam ban. You can find out about the rest of it by visiting the site rather than relying on me to describe it.

It has pulled together a talented team of writers but has understood that it also needs the technical knowledge to sustain a professional looking site with a lot of stimulating content. In a break with the tradition from which the contributors come it seems to be inviting comments. The moderation policy will be a test for the wisdom and patience of those tasked with administering it I suspect. The hardest part of that is likely to be allowing the free and easy attitude to comment and dissent that are features of living movements free rein while stopping idiots behaving true to form.

Analogies are always invidious but that’s not always a reason not to make them. Now that Socialist Unity is explicitly locating itself somewhere in the middle of a triangle formed by Gordon Brown, George Galloway and Ken Livingstone Counterfire has the potential to become the premier source of information and meeting place for those of an activist bent who don’t feel comfortable inside that triangle. Its commitment to theory from day one is also a pleasing rejection of the empiricism which has been the charm and the bane of the British left.

Here’s wishing the site well.

46 responses to “Counterfire – savvy new kid on the block”

  1. Liam – “There is no obvious reference to anyone’s recent or long term political history. Neither is there any identification with any political current nor a hint that the site is representing the views of an organisation.”

    I liked the look of the site to but don’t you think its a bit disingenuous that it doesn’t mention that it is being produced by a very particular set of people who have just left the SWP?

    I agree with a lot of the politics of these people hold but to set yourself out as “a news and theory website from the movements, for the movements.” – i.e. to give the impression that you are in favour of a something relatively open and pluralistic – when in reality you still believe in the need for a centralised politicly narrow Marxist party seems a bit naughty to me.

    That said, people change and the politics that these comrades where pushing in the context of internal SWP arguments may well grow and transform in the light of the open air. Hopefully Lindsey and John may even give up their focus on personal power.

    minor point: they may have internet geek credentials but their RSS feed doesn’t seems to be pointing to broken links at the moment

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  2. I’ll give it a read, but without locating myself in a Rees-German- Nineham triangle either, if you dont mind..

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  3. a bit disingenuous that it doesn’t mention that it is being produced by a very particular set of people who have just left the SWP?
    It’s not surprising that they don’t want to define themselves in terms of a factional battle within the SWP – they probably don’t want to turn into the Revolutionary Democratic Group.
    If SUN succesfully triangulates, will it put the ruling class in zugzwang? Maybe not.

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  4. It does look very impressive. Reminds me a bit of World Socialist Web Site (which also has the facility to turn any article into a pdf leaflet)- i don’t mean that in a bad way!

    I’ll certainly visit it regularly and I have signed up for the email newsletter.

    One question – does the group behind it intend to also have a print publication or is this ‘instead of’ ?

    Rob.

    PS Text to speech is a bit of a gimmick and it is quite difficult to listen to Stephanie Hawking for any length of time. Perhaps ‘author and broadcaster’ John Rees could have been persuaded just to read the files instead.

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  5. It is not only welcoming but refreshing. It helps fill a serious gap. I find the references to Trotsky and Gramsci re united fronts hopeful in respect of suggesting a more open approach to discussions.

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  6. Chessplayer by any chance, Skidders?

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  7. I had a look, yes its ok but is there anything there that isnt already on the net somewhere else? And where are the comments??

    I cant help feeling this enthusiasm for a new grouplet has something to do with something else, particuarly when it comes with a put down to SU

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  8. Thanks Liam,

    Just a question which you or others might be able to answer. Are all the listed contributors at Counterfire (below) former SWP, or are there people from other left backgrounds?

    Neil Faulkner is a Time Team regular, an academic archaeologist and historian

    John Rees is a writer and broadcaster who has published books on imperialism and philosophy

    Clare Solomon is standing for ULU president and a leading student activist

    James Meadway is a doctoral student in economics and former Treasury policy advisor

    Brendan Montague is a professional journalist and works in public relations, he writes about the media and immigration

    Elaine Graham-Leigh is a leading member of the Campaign against Climate Change.

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  9. Terry – I don’t know anything about Brendan or Neil. The others are ex-SWP.

    Danny – if anyone is stupid enough to join SR after reading a favourable blog post about a website we’re not interested. The fact is that it is potentially a significant new web presence. If it had been rubbish I’d have found a diplomatic way of saying so but I think it’s a very strong launch. Come back later in the week and I’ll sneer at something or other.

    Joe -it’s a bit tricky deciding what to do after leaving an organisation after a long time. You can decide to be the Real / Continuity version of the thing you’ve just quit. If you are launching a new project it may be a bit redundant to hark back to the thing you’ve just walked out of, especially if you’re addressing a completely new audience.

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  10. Joe, There’ll be a meeting for the Counterfire team in a couple of weeks, do I don’t expect a formal policy statement on organisation from them. But I get the feeling they will be building something both looser and tighter than the SWP. Looser, in the sense that it will be more open, fluid and democratic than the SWP, but also tighter because they will be looking for a more even level of participation and commitment than the SWP.

    Rob, they won’t produce a magazine straight away, if ever. I think they will be looking for more leaflets and free broadsheets (think of the experience Respect has had with the amazing success of making The Respect Paper free) and then books and pamphlets for material that’s worth keeping in print for the medium to long term.

    Danny, yeah – I can’t see Counterfire displacing Socialist Unity. Perhaps that’s wishful thinking, and they feel like rather different projects. But the truth is that splits often great a lot of energy that just dissipates, and we should be happy when it doesn’t do that. When I look at the split between Workers’ Power and Permanent Revolution, for example, that seems to have unlocked positive energies on both sides that were stifled by the different directions. And I also think that both the SWP and Counterfire will be happier apart than they were together.

    Terry, I think they are almost all ex-SWP.

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  11. phew Liam, i misread what you wrote here

    I don’t know anything about Brendan or Neil. The others are ex-SWP

    At first glance I thought you were referring to Brendan o’Neill.

    My suspicions about the political trajectory of Counterfire seemed t become flesh before my very eyes.

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  12. Yep looks good, but the lack of international section is rather telling. There’s a whole world outside the UK…

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  13. “Counterfire” seems to be a restatement of the Rees-German “United Front of a Special Type” model of organisation. (Note the theoretical articles by both Trotsy and Gramsci on the United Front).

    They promote a “Coalition of Coalitions” as their model of organisation; UAF, CACC, StWC; Globalise Resistance, neo-Feminism etc..
    Their role is, presumably, to ‘theorise their practice’.

    But significantly, they make no reference to the SWP’s new Right to Work campaign, the One Million Climate jobs campaign.

    They don’t have much on union struggles either.
    The PCS strike is covered via a link to the blogger “A very public sociologist”, who is an ex-SP member now rejoining the Labour Party.

    Neil Faulkner is quite a valuable addition to their team, but they’ll probably spend more time analysing the Peasants Revolt of 1381 than analysing, say, what’s happening in Nepal today.

    The title is suspiciously reminiscent of “Counterpunch”, which is mainly a vehicle for left journalism, which is essentially what John Rees and Lindsey German do. So I suspect they want to maintain a public profile as campaign builders. In that respect they have a talented media mouthpiece in Adie Cousins.

    But is it really incumbent on every lefty with a modem to launch a new website if they have a spat with their former comrades?

    The growing proliferation of blogs and websites also has the potential to disorganise the left and undermine the role of a centralised party press.

    Judging by the number of links to bloggers, Rees-German seem to have been rather chastened by the blog’s influence in the Respect split and subseqent SWP bust up.

    But they don’t really have anything significant to say about party organisation or programme.
    I’m not sure if there’s much more space on the left for this sort of thing.

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  14. Neil Faulkner is former SWP, he writes on Scotland a lot, he argues that Scotland is not a historically oppressed nation, which is the basis for the SWP’s attitude towards Scottish nationalism (if memory servers me right).

    So of course I understand that these guys are perfectly sensibly not going to set out to build a little mini-swp. Size constraints mean that they will have to start with something relatively loose and I expect they know they won’t grow if they define their project to narrowly at this point.

    The question is however whether this is “more open, fluid and democratic” (as Duncan claims it will be) way of organising will be
    a) a sensible temporary tactic till they grow to a size where they can declare themselves ready to be the vanguard party again (c.f. the I.S’s development)
    or
    b) a real change of view about the kind of radical left organisation we need to build.

    I hope for (b) but fear the truth is probably (a). Of course in the course of new struggle a might turn into b.

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  15. Neil Faulkner does not write on Scotland, that is Neil Davidson (very much anti-Rees), but on the Roman empire. He rejects the concept of an slave mode of production if I recall correctly.

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  16. Clarification. Neil Faulkner is not Neil Davidson. Although both are called Neil.

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  17. The last I saw of Neil Faulkner was at a meeting of his at Marxism(’04?) where he was going through The Life of Brian’s “What have the Romans ever done for us?” explaining in each case that the benfits only accrued to a tiny section of the population. Doesn’t let his grasp of detail get in the way of his lucidity.

    Dave O – I am sometimes found in the company of members of the Federated Union of Chess Move Executants, as Bill Hartston would put it.

    Duncan – think of the experience Respect has had with the amazing success of making The Respect Paper freeSorry, can you explain that one a little further?
    As to you other points, yes I’d agree the former comrades will be happier apart, though perhaps the SWP will regret some loss of technical expertise in new media, but though obviously partisan in view of my experience with its host and his minions, the explicit drift to the right of SU does mean that the Left might find it more profitable to find other places to debate, if it wants intelligent Labour supporting blogs AVPS and DP have far more to say. More surprising is why Liam chooses to mention this now, it seems the tensions between the appearance and reality of Respect are coming to the fore[and Liam, you may want to update the tagline on your AVPS link as he may still be pleasingly frank, but not in the SP any more].

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  18. Perhaps it is worth reminding cdes about the plethora of newspapers on the left that used to exist in the old days . There were nearly 80 Yiddish speaking papers in the East End of London.

    The exchange of ideas and experiences on the Left today, with more websites and blogs, is a recognition of the plurality of the Left and a growing need to discuss outside of the limits imposed by one CC or another.

    Whilst they may be limitations and agendas behind the various websites, quite obviously, it also reflects the need to exchange information in the current situation.

    As to whether the site helps clarify the ideas will depend. Let us hope it does but in the meantime continue discussing ideas and tactics openly

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  19. skidmarx, I was referring to the fact that since The Respect Paper became free, the circulation has grown like Topsy.

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    Duncan,
    Now its my turn to be confused! There was a freebie 8 page Respect Paper produced and distributed in huge quantities (a very good thing).
    But the current issue is not free (its 80p and well worth it).
    Do you mean that the free issue had the knock on effect of generating paid sale / subscriptions for the paper?
    Rob

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  21. Hi Rob,

    Thanks for that. Looking back, it reads as if The Respect Paper is always free – which is not the case.

    What I mean was, the experience of that free issue of The Repect Paper built on the experience of the earlier free Respect tabloids. Each time we’ve produced free tabloids the circulation and distribution of those tabloids has grown remarkably. It’s pretty clear that we could regularly distribute 20,000 or more copies of the free paper. And, while I don’t see figures, the free paper has certainly has a knock-on effect in increasing the membership of Respect.

    Of course even with the current cover price, some branches do take larger orders and give some away.

    Duncan.

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  22. I don’t like to state the obvious but a free paper will always circulate more copies then a paid for one. Whether it helps draw in a loyal audience is a more difficult question. For instance I have been given various respect papers but would struggle to think if I glanced at more then the front page. Particularly a paper not adapting to a populist outlook.

    I did use to read Socialist Out look however (which must have been a fair while ago…) and occasionally SR.

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  23. I don’t see any answer to the question of whether the free paper has increased the paid sale. And it’s not a shock that it’s easy to give away endless copies of a free paper. As to whether the free paper has increased the membership of Respect, on the one hand that’s a questionable assignment of cause and effect, on the other it’s still doubtful whether the increase is indicative of any long-term trend or just a short term blip.

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  24. Should have read:

    I don’t like to state the obvious but a free paper will always circulate more copies then a paid for one. Whether it helps draw in a loyal audience is a more difficult question. Particularly a paper not adapting to a populist outlook.

    For instance I have been given various respect papers but would struggle to think if I glanced at more then the front page as I’m sure is the case with many who take a free paper / leaflet on a demo.

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  25. Gotta say, its a good looking Joomla based site, will be very interesting to see how the editorial balance settles itself down… and of course how many unbalanced comments it gathers.

    It’s very difficult getting a decent weight of editorial together when you are first putting a site together, so its very early days to start looking at the weighting re UK and international politics and all the rest.

    Does it matter if they were all SWP in the past, its what they do in the future that matters… mind you rather cheeky to put in Globise Resistance and SWP into their mega tags.

    On the whole I think it is a great start, and hopefully they will soon sort out the feedburner RSS service.

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  26. sorry meta tags not mega tags

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  27. I’m perplexed as to why the web administrators don’t seem to have tested the site with IE8 on windows7 and why they are using https instead of just plain http.

    I can’t add any comments – a bit like attending a meeting chaired by lindsay or john in fact.

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  28. The site is being upgraded all the time it seem Martin so the test version on https will probably go.

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  29. Liam –

    Your enthusiasm for Respect is waning. I just know, somehow.

    Anyway, at least Andy’s location relative to George Galloway is now rather different to where it was not so long ago, when ‘triangle’ was not the apposite shape to use in this connection.

    Skidders –

    What’s your BCF?

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  30. Yes I still cant see any comments on counterfire, is that because no one has made any ? Or is it just too complicated for people like me?

    So what does a site like that really have to offer us that we havnt already had enough of ? Inspired leadership and no debate?

    Liam I didnt think your appreciation was a crude attempt at recruitment, I thought it might be about making new friends on the left though as ive recently heard fractious rumours of Respect.

    This little group might still be big enough to be worth relating too for a small organisation like SR, and if so thats up to yourselves, but you wont carry people like me with you in that direction.

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  31. Why I’m defending ex-SWP hacks I’m not sure but anyway.

    Danny the site is a handful of days old, so to expect a fully formed version is a little to strong. Re-comments, the site is a registration site, so you have to register with user name and password to comment- whether they allow anonymous unregistered comments is up to them, Joomla allows that functionality but given the nutters who regularly fuck up socialist unity debates, and any article on climate change on The Guardian, I would advise them to keep a firm editorial control (The’re ex leaders of the SWP after all so censorship should come naturally).

    As for testing on IE8,IE8’s penetration of the market is still limited to those who have bought computers recently, and anyway why any socialist is feeding money into Microsoft and not using open source alternatives amazes me.

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  32. Pete, you’re slightly wrong about ie8 and anyway it is free http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

    bizarrely comments appear to be available now

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  33. Dave O – I haven’t had one for about 25 years, my last was a 139J. If you want to know any more I suggest you get in touch directly as there are a lot of stalkers about.

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  34. Thanks Martin- I stand corrected on the browser front.

    Still prefer open source as both Google and Microsoft are pushing hard against what I consider the limits of privacy with their data collection and usage policies.

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  35. Please

    Give the people a chance! The world is not owerfull by leftleaning websites and evryone should welcome a new one, even when its full of ex-SWP members. In some time we will be able tom see – and judge – whether it suits our political straitjacket or not.
    I for one welcome Counterfire and will happily engage in polemic and discussions with them!

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  36. Sorry but to paraphrase an old saying, there are maybe too many socialist websites all saying virtually the same thing and not enough socialists!

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  37. The comrades’ engagement with the complexities of feminism seems refreshing, though maybe the SWP has been more open on this for a while? When I was first involved in the early 90s, the Australian IS group was stridently adamant that any use of the word feminism inherently meant bourgeois liberal or radical (patriarchy theory) varieties, and hence was a diversion from the socialist struggle for women’s liberation, and here’s the quote from Lenin to prove it.

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  38. […] the launch of the new, improved Counterfire website. Feedback so far has been (almost) universally excellent, and site visits seriously in excess of what I (at least) anticipated. It’s too early to say […]

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  39. It does look pretty. But the contents pretty thin. Only three new articles from what I could tell and no accounting for their recent split, which is after all, the interesting bit.
    Pretty odd.

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  40. re Nick Fredman’s point;

    Arguably, the USFI’s 1979 Theses on Women’s Liberation provided the theoretical rationale for building an autonomous women’s movement in lieu of the party.
    Given this position, most women took the line of least resistance and left.
    So maybe the IS-SWP was on to something?

    However the SWP, true to form, adopted an over-centralist approach.
    It even closed down its own journal “Women’s Voice”.
    I seem to remember Lindsey German acted as Cliff’s right hand at the time.

    The DSP in Australia have jumped enthusiastically into the same approach.
    But they should take warning from the latest opinion polls on the forthcoming French local elections.
    The NPA are currently running at 1.5%, a full percent behind Lutte Ouvriere, often deried as workerist organisational fetishists.
    They aren’t even in the same ball park as the Parti de Gauche at the moment.
    Something is seriously amiss here.

    As the recent revival in fortunes of the Labour Party in Britain shows;
    Ignore the mass parties of the working class at your peril……

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  41. Prianikoff- what’s the source of those figures on the NPA/LO? How can they tell as LO is as always standing alone but the NPA is in various alliances with the PdG, PCF, and associated smallish left groups of one sort or another in most Regions?

    Here in the Languedoc the PCF, PdG, NPA, GU, Red Greens, alternatives and Fede list are on 10%.and rising,and the LO is on 1.8 and falling%

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  42. The student elections just announced at ULU and elsewhere, with the election of Claire Solomons and Ashok at LSE, along with the events at Sussex Uni, shows that there is a growing voice of resistance which is willing to engage in debate and action.

    This along with many other issues shows the plurality of the Left and the urgent need to debate across a range of platforms within the Left.

    Such an approach can only benefit the whole movement in emerging from the darkness in other quarters of non debate.

    Sterile sectarianism is being dumped by many and hopefully such walls continue to collapse under the pressure of the growing opposition to the crises.

    Yes let us hope that the new site, along with others, reflects what many of us have been arguing for, greater joint debate around action and ideas.

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  43. re Pete Shield:-

    The LO vote is slipping a bit, now reported at between 1.5-2%.
    NPA is consistently being reported at 1.5%.
    Parti de Gauche at 6%.

    Paris Match March 9th :-

    (%) Ensemble 4-5 mars 2010
    (%) La liste de Lutte ouvrière 1,5
    La liste du Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste 1,5
    La liste du Front de gauche (Parti communiste et Parti de gauche) 6
    La liste d’alliance du Nouveau Parti anticapitaliste et du Front de gauche (ou du NPA et du Parti de gauche) (1) 1,5

    AFP today:
    “L’extrême gauche est créditée de 3,5%, 2% pour L0 (-0,5), 1,5% (=) pour le NPA (inchangé). L’Alliance écologique indépendante est stable à 1%. Une rubrique “autres listes” est créditée de 1,5% (-1,5).”

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  44. Here is the latest TNS sondage http://www.tns-sofres.com/_assets/files/2010.03.12-regionales-v3.pdf

    …and here a list of the various left alliances involved in the Front de Gauche http://ensembleagauche.fr/regions

    The reason the NPA % is so small is that they are not standing alone in every Region but where the local leadership is less sectarian (Or the PCF has declared they will not link up with the Socialists) in the second tour) they have entered into an alliance with the PCF, and so their figures are combined with the PCF,PdG and others.

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  45. Mind you saying that the NPA vote has consistently dropped after the Presidencials, they were shocked to come behind the PCF in the Europeans.

    Some commentators put this down to the replacement of Besancenot with Danny C-B as TVs token radical on most debates.

    In hindsight it may have been an error standing Olivier as head of the NPA list in Ile de France, this kept him off national TV as he had to be treated as a candidate for airtime rules.

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  46. Socialist unity seems to be dieing a death by a thousands cuts and is fast disappearing up it’s own bottom as it rapidly transforms itself into the rejoin New Labour party unity blog with endless mindless and horribly boring posts about ‘the’ party.Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn!

    So much for SOCIALISM nevermind Socialist unity.

    Counterfire is for marxist theory, news and events which preoccupy those who have recently left the SWP after it’s little scrap and petty power play.It is not as I see and understand it a blog but a website so to compare the two is a bit weird to say the least.

    What is needed is a vibrant and innovative website and blog focussed on the renewal and reinvigoration of class politics, Socialist / feminist / anti racist / ecological thinking and rethinking.

    It needs to be focussed on the building of genuine Left unity across the anti racist anti fascist movement,the anti war movement,the womens movement, the Labour and trade union movement , the climate change movement and beyond.

    It needs to be urgently addressing the crisis of capitalism and imperialism,the neo liberal offensive and global climate change and chaos and working towards the creation a new Left party backed by Left unions which is as always desparately needed.

    Perhaps the Convention of the Left is the nearest thing on offer at the moment and would be a good place to start to develop serious discussions on the internet about Socialist unity both around and between conventions.

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