I can say with some confidence that there will be a pretty detailed report of this forum in the next issue of a weekly paper for workers. For those of you who can’t bear to wait that long here is my utterly one-sided and partisan description. I’ll be putting up the video over the weekend once I’ve chopped out some of the more graphic scenes of sex and violence.

This forum, which was rather on the small side, was mainly intended as a chance for SR supporters to reflect on last year’s developments for Respect and look at the year ahead. Bear in mind as you read this that several of the participants in the discussion made real efforts to build Respect branches in their own areas, worked in Tower Hamlets during the parliamentary and local government elections and want to build an alternative to Labour that is more than a propaganda group. These are not professional whingers. If you want to find out what Alan said you’ll have to watch the video. I’ll summarise the content of the discussion.

There was a spectrum of views. These ranged from “it’s as dead as a dodo” to “it’s as dead as a dead thing that died a few months ago”. Alternative views were “it’s not quite dead yet but it’s going to take a miracle to restore it to health and as a Marxist I’m unconvinced about miracles” and “in some parts of the country it is fairly healthy”.

Pretty much everyone agreed that Respect’s failure to grow is a big setback for the project of creating a new socialist mass party and that the reason for this was a return to its most sectarian methods of operation by the SWP. George Galloway’s role was seen as particularly negative. Most of those who expressed a view on the matter felt that his appearance on Big Brother was a significant factor in the decision of about one thousand members not to renew their membership of the organisation.

The problem was distilled to its essence by one comrade who put the question “How can I ask someone to join Respect? It’s got a MP who does what he wants, no internal political life and is dominated by a semi-Stalinist organisation?” This is a harsh description. I’d be interested in comments on it.

We were given a report on what’s happening in Manchester where a group of SWP members left that organisation so that they could stand as Respect and there are branches with a strong layer of independent activists. The same is true in Bristol and some of Birmingham. The picture in London is much worse with most branches having little life other than that breathed into them by SWP branch committees.

We didn’t much discuss what happens next. We’ll do something more structured in the near future on that theme. We wish John Mc Donnell well but are not convinced that work in the Labour Party offers any productive scope. That said, some contributors explored the idea of leftists leaving Labour if the union link is severed. It is apparent that the opportunity to create a new party from the anti-war movement has been blown. Time to hunker down.

14 responses to “Resistance Forum on Respect”

  1. Blimey – that leaves me with no significant political differences with SR.

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  2. I’m sure you can find some ANAnd what’s all this about semi-Stalinist… where’s the semi- come from?

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  3. I’d hardly say that the CPGB’s rag is “for workers”

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  4. Hi Andy and Jimjust passing by, dont really want to get into ISG internal debate about Respect but seems to me there is still plenty to play for.For info just helped set up this blog to publisise what Oxford Respect is up to:.http://oxfordrespectinformation.blogspot.com/And dont slag off the pink, I think it looks pretty..Dave

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  5. It’s an interesting blog Dave and I’ll put a link to it. But in my recent experience “hastily called demonstration” is code for “somebody in the SWP decided”. The description of Oxford Respect you give just does not match with what I’ve been told by people who want Respect to succeed who live in the town.

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  6. The left in Oxford is certainly fragmented but generally finds ways to work together. Its a busy field, with 4 iwca councillors and 8 green councillors, plus maybe 5 campaign/left/activist groups meeting on any given evening in the town centre. Nevertheless respect is finding its place and slowly getting more organised. Judging by its vote in Cowley in the May elections, meeting attendance over the last few months, membership and social events its certainly a quantitive step on from the Socialist Alliance experience in Oxford. There still seems plenty of interest, with new people getting involved and scope to deepen our roots in Cowley. Difficult to judge the national picture but it seems to me that if Preston can be held and Birmingham expanded in May then the momentum will continue. In fairness the evening demo was not called by the SWP but by other members of Oxford Stop the War. Dave

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  7. On the Socialist Restistance website, any thoughts about publishing the articles in htm format or word format? – as if (for example) you want to print one article (if like me you are not fond of reading off a computer screen) you have to try and print the whole newspaper in the PDF format you use.

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  8. Nice blog dave.The pink is vile though… come on, it should be some combination of red and green … as you well know 🙂

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  9. Hey Dave, I don’t think you can accuse me or Jim (or even Liam) of being involved in the ISG’s internal debates!And a question of clarificaton was it called by oxford Stop the War, or East OIxford Stop the war? And why are there two groups?And why was no-one from Oxford Rrespect involved in organising the Brize Norton demo last December?

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  10. Hi AndyWasn’t accusing, tho may have mistakenly assumed that Liam was in the ISG.The protest was called by members of OSTW, I hadnt heard about the attack until I got a call at work. Thought that the national stw responce seemed strangely low key. The history of the various anti war groups in Oxford is long and complex, suffice to say at the height of the war east, north, abingdon stw groups were established to ‘build outwards’ and east has kept going. Its not like ostw and eostw are rival groupings, we build the same demos and public meetings, and it does mean I think that on balance more happens than otherwise would do. Recently for the Lebanon rally and the forthcoming Oxford demo in March there has been an adhoc forum bringing together the various disperate campaigning groups in Oxford which seems to function ok.As for Brize Norton EOSTW did the postering for it around Oxford, leafleted for it in EO, got some posters up in shops, mailed it out and provided stewards when asked. Its not like I was told about the organising meeting and didn’t turn up. Some of the central group are in Respect, I don’t know who was liasing with you.

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  11. We plan to revise the SR website and make it more interactive fairly soon. We agree about the issue of not being able to print off individual pieces.

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  12. Sorry Liam, I will not be reporting this meeting, there is enough gossip in the rag for the next couple of weeks.Although, if I had not narrowly avoided earwigging SR internal debate and decisions…

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  13. DaveThere is now an ad hoc STW/CND regional network (groups between Bristol to Oxford)that East Oxford have not been part of, the next meeting is in Swindon, 16th January.The e-mails for the organisaing hvwe gone far and wide to all the activists we know in the region – so I m suproised that no-one in the East Oxford group got one.

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  14. Andy can you stick eastoxfordstopthewar@yahoo.co.uk on your mailing list.CheersDave

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