The “encounter ” as it was described on the agenda pulled together about 45-50 people in Paris. It started on Sunday and is due to finish on Monday afternoon and I’m hoping to get a report on that session in the next day or day.

Who was there? Britain seems to be the world centre of the ecologically aware proletarian vanguard. The Alliance For Green Socialism had five or six people there. Socialist Resistance had six. The Left Greens had four or five including Derek Wall, one of the event’s convenors and the SWP were represented by their well regarded comrade Jonathan. A Paris based AWL comrade spoke a couple of times and, for the first time ever, I was able to agree with everything a member of that current said. Greece too was well represented with a number of comrades from SYRZIA. More about Greece later. There was a small number of comrades from Brazil and Argentina, most notable of whom were ecossocialistas. Check out their website. It’s in Portuguese but it’s easy enough to follow. Then there were four or five LCR members, somebody from the French Green Party representing himself, a couple of people from the Danish Red Green Alliance. Solidarity (US) was there as was Sinistra Critica. In addition there was a spread of individuals some of whom seemed to have more useful contributions to make than others. Apologies were received from a member of the Nepal Green Party and comrades in China, South Africa, Zimbabwe and Japan.

So you can see that the organisers were able to draw on a wide range of contacts and networks. The average age of the participants was probably on the wrong side of fifty and it was predominantly male.

Like most readers of this site I don’t like anything that brings “touchy feeliness” into politics. So I was tempted to call for a split when someone proposed that we sit in a circle “so we can all see each other”. The view didn’t reward the effort of moving the chairs.

After the introductions it was quickly agreed to have a multi-lingual website. This already exists in a rough form. Ian Angus will be in charge of that. There followed a long discussion on the next event. It seems to be a small step from a shabby, cold hall on the edge of Paris to a major international conference in Brazil during the 2009 World Social Forum and that seems to be the plan. The Brazilian comrades, some of whom I think are with the Fourth International’s Socialist Democracy group, seem confident that they can pull it off. In the meantime the Greek comrades offered to host a smaller event before next summer. A coordinating committee of sixteen or so people was elected and comrade Tracey was thrilled to be nominated as SR’s representative.

Michel Löwy gave a rare insight into the ferocious democratic centralism that the LCR leadership uses to keep a grip on its members. He said words to the effect of “we didn’t get any central committee’s permission to do this. We just went ahead and did it because it seemed a good idea.” Contrast this to the approach that is so common in theEnglish speaking left.

Is anything likely to come out of it? It’s too early to say. What was impressive was the seriousness of purpose of the convenors and their success in pulling together such a spectrum of opinion. The precise meaning of “ecosocialism” still has to be properly defined and for this to happen will require an international process of discussion and today was an early step on that road. How this concept then begins to affect political practice and develop an explicit current will be the next big test. The really interesting discussion will be on the next Ecosocialist Manifesto. In this context the distinction between reformist and revolutionary solutions to the environmental crisis is more than rhetorical. My judgement based on today’s contributions would be that the next version of the Manifesto will be an explicitly revolutionary document.

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11 responses to “International Ecosocialist Encounter”

  1. […] in Paris held over the weekend. Derek described the meeting as ‘inspiring’ while Liam MacUaid was impressed by the ’seriousness of purpose of the convenors and their success in pulling […]

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  2. Which SYRIZA group were the comrades from? I am guessing SYN ?

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  3. Good question. I’ve never been that hot on remembering that type of detail. When our Greek expert returns from Paris I’ll ask him.

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  4. syriza is the electoral front of synaspismos. a left front that supports the EU, and attracts voters from the middle class suburbs.

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  5. zachariades, on October 8th, 2007 at 7:44 pm Said:

    syriza is the electoral front of synaspismos. a left front that supports the EU, and attracts voters from the middle class suburbs.
    ——————————————-
    There are other forces ther than synaspismos involved in Syriza including some ecological movements and far left groupings, and while synaspismos do not call for EU withdrawal their support for the EU is hardly unconditional as evidenced by their statement on the French referendum:
    http://www.syn.gr/en/intl/050530_french_rfrndm.htm

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  6. i don’t want to offend anyone, or anyones favoured group. but okde/spartacus, DEA, Dikki etc cannot have more than 50 members apiece (they had them in their to give the front left-legitimacy and to do the fly-posting). Akoa are a rump from the euro-communist movement. Only KOE have some presence and that is only in the university faculties in patras and Lesvos. I have been a trade unionist for 15 years (in the teachers union where you might expect to find these groups) they do not exist in society.

    Of the non-synaspismos members of syriza only AKOA got a place in parliament.

    Synaspismos in local gvt have supported and implemented every reactionary directive coming from the EU viv-vis flexible working conditions privatizations etc. I could go on…

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  7. 1. In paris there were not members of SYNaspismos.
    there were 3 members of KOKKINO, an indypendant activist and a member of the ecological intervesion (a small group that participates in syriza)

    2.If you read SYRIZA’s electoral you will find out that there is nowhere written that they support the EU. What it is written though is that they stand against the neoliberal EU policies.
    http://www.syriza.gr/taytotita/diakyriksi/b-oi-amesoi-programmatikoi-sto3c7oi-kai-ta-metopa-palis/

    3.OKDE/spartakos don’t participate in SYRIZA but in ENANTIA (they are not the same coalition)

    4.DEA, KOKKINO and DIKKI have much more than 50 members each. especially DIKKI who had lots of parliamentary candidates- check the lists at http://www.syriza.gr/ta-psifodeltia-toy-syriza/ta-psifodeltia-toy-syriza-ana-eklogik-perifereia/ . Much more people attented their conferences, hold their flags during a march etc (dikki used to go to marches holding PAME flags

    5.As for the local governments of Synaspismos the most widely known was the one of Elliniko where the mayor (ex-KKE who splited because he wanted to have a coalition with SYRIZA) did a hanger strike for more than 2 weeks and won with the local movement against the privatasation of th beaches.
    It is true that in some areas SYN’s coalitions with PASOK are not anti-capitalist but it is not the typical case.

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  8. sorry about okde. sloppy mistake.

    but really about kokkino, DEA and DIKKI (who used to have quite a big organization but have collapsed the last 7 years) , i don’t know about 50 but they are small organizations.very small.

    The mebers in paris might be from kokkino. But it is synaspismos that controls the line of syriza and that is clear from the people who were elected.In this respect syriza is a front for synaspismos, where will the far-left groups have a say in reality? Even stratoulis was embarassed about the lack of trade unionists, young poeple and indeed women amongst them. In petroupoli, Nea Smyrni and other places where SYN control the council (in some cases in allaince with PASOK) all these reactionary measures have been introduced.

    As for the EU. In KEDKE and .TEDKNA (eqiuvalent of the local gvt association) SYN has voted for every measure coming from the EU. Kokkino and the other groups may have a better policy but this will not be expressed through the parliamentray group. Nobody has forgotten that they voted for maastricht and that their stance on the other treaties has been ambiguous.

    In thye union of private sector employees (OIYE) the synaspismenoi get their votes from openly pro-employer controlled unions.and a syn trade unionist who is the manager of a supermarket sacked a worker for striking, in accordance with the decision of the Athens region of the union.

    This does not mean that kortzidis in Ellhniko should not be congratulated.

    The class base of the vote is also very middle-class.

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  9. Liam: “My judgement based on today’s contributions would be that the next version of the Manifesto will be an explicitly revolutionary document.”

    Is that a good idea?

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  10. Andy our starting point is that it is the capitalist mode of production is exacerbating the process of global warming. Capitalist solutions are possible but they will be authoritarian ones that will obilge the world’s poor to pay. The extent of the of the problem is so vast and the time so short that a refromist approach is inadequate.

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