easter_ferret Any resemblance to an event the writer attended recently is entirely coincidental. I’ll delete any speculative remarks which try to relate this account of someone else’s real experience to anything I’ve done in the last week or two. This has nothing to do with me.

Someone I met in a pub last week was telling me about his friend who recently rolled up to an organising meeting for a conference that is happening later this year. It is shaping up to be an impressive event with a good range of enthusiastic figures from the world of ferret breeding keen to be there. Some of the well disposed leading ferret breeders are asking to be on the platform for the plenary sessions. There are workshops in abundance too. Fringe meetings were suggested but some people think they are too much of a palaver and you can never be quite sure what turn the conversation might take. Others quite like them but they lost the vote. Quite a ramshackle bunch of people of people who have never worked together before are working hard to make sure the conference, which is the first of its type, is a great success.

As with religion and football passions can run high in this world which so much of the rest of humanity finds odd. This means that most ferret breeders find themselves in pretty small organisations because they can’t agree on the proper exercise regime or diet for the animals. Just the sort of thing ordinary people can’t be bothered trying to understand. Nonetheless they are all pleasantly surprised to find out just how well they can get on together.

But one of the organisations is much bigger than all the others. We were onto the fourth pint and I’ve forgotten the name but it was something like United Ferrets (UF). Many of its members are considered sensible, constructive people with a real passion for ferrets and their welfare. UF has lots of fulltime officials who advise members on what’s best for them and keep them up to date with a weekly newsletter and phone calls. They are never too happy when other people have ideas which are different from theirs and they know that they are right because they are big. That means they like to make certain that when they do get involved in things that they stay in control. Making sure that lots of their important, and not so important people get to speak at public events is one of their obsessions. Sometimes this means that they don’t tell people in the other pro-ferret organisations that they are members of United Ferrets and are representing another group. It’s not exactly dishonest but it’s not completely honest either.

Winning votes is very important for United Ferrets and never more so than when they are working with the other groups. This seemed to be the point of the guy’s story. Apparently at an earlier meeting somebody had rumbled their cunning plan and had suggested to them that it didn’t look too inclusive or a bit of a stitchup. He’d suggested that maybe one or two of the United Ferrets people stand down and let someone else take their place. For a UF full time worker there is no more deadly provocation. They’ll harumph and they’ll bluster but mostly they’ll get their mates to come along to the next meeting. So four or five poor sods had to give up their Saturday afternoon, uttering barely a word, in order that UF’s master plan for dominating the world of ferret fanciers could be carried out.

Ferret breeders! What a bunch of nutters!

23 responses to “Sympathy for the cannon fodder – an example”

  1. Sorry Liam but I am the son of ferret breeder – no kid – and I am sorry to say, I suspect you made the above post up.

    The prime purpose of ferret breeding is, of course, poaching, which tends to be an individual activity not subject to collective organisation.

    No self-respecting ferret breeder would ever be told what to do or think by a full-time organiser. They are not SWPers or someth … shit, said it. Sorry, just slipped out.

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  2. Ferrets masquerading as bunnies. Typical They love-bomb you until they get into your trousers and then off come the fluffy pink ears and out come the nippy little teeth.

    Blighters can’t be trusted. Thought everyone knew that by now. Paper’s more absorbent as it was in my day, though, and ferret poo really does soak up a treat.

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  3. Have the guts to say what you mean instead of indulging in these weasel words, talk about sectarian nonsense .

    Better a ferret than a weasel

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  4. Liam,

    Your position seems a little disingenuous. You have spent more than a year attacking Galloway saying that he has let down Respect with jibes like, “He hasn’t been seen in his constituency for over a year”, perjorative references to his “media career”, that white working class residents loved him during the election but now they jeer when his name is mentioned.

    Now you have suddenly done a 180 degree turn!

    You were such a fan of Tower Hamlets Respect that you left the organisation and denounced it as populist, for example over strip clubs, but now you attack the SWPs contention that their is a Right wing to Respect (I use the term in relatively).

    Let’s quote Liam Mac Uaid:

    “There is a contradictory element to some of the results. The twelve councillors in Tower Hamlets are all Bangladeshi. This means that the council group is not fully representative of the ethnic and political diversity of either the borough or Respect in Tower Hamlets.
    Many of the councillors are politically untested and few of them have experience of socialist organisations other then Respect.
    Sections of Respect’s leadership have been very reluctant to adopt rudimentary Labour Movement procedures for the accountability of elected officials. The councillors will be able to cite the precedent that George Galloway has set whenever they are asked to report to the local organisation. ”

    Then there was the post “Whose Lecherous Ramblings are this?” (The answer, Respect Renewal MP, George Galloway 6 months ago (in response to Galloway’s eyeing up of a Big Brother female contestant)

    “This comes from the Daily Record’s showbiz celebrity gossip columnist who also draws a MP’s reason for reasons that become more mysterious with every passing day. I know I keep droning on about him but this sexist, priapic drivel is inexcusable.”

    Further quotes, (Liam’s message of solidarity after Galloway is kicked out of the House of Commons entitled, “PESECUTING GALLOWAY – BUT FOR THE WRONG REASON!”:

    “TV personality Galloway has characterised the proceedings as “an attempted political assassination”. He will be resisting it strenuously. Has he had any dodgy financial dealings? Who knows? Who cares by this point? In most jobs moonlighting six or seven days a week and not turning up for work would get you up in front of the equivalent of the Parliamentary Standards and Privileges Committee. If you carried on doing it you’d get your P45 pretty quickly . . . . My criticism is that he’s barely been in the constituency this year. Respect members say the same thing in the borough. Running a five day a week TV show and a weekend radio programme are not what most socialists expect their MPs to do. In the real world it’s called moonlighting or skiving and gets you sacked.”

    Here’s Liam’s review of Galloway’s talk show (entitled “F**K Galloway’s at it AGAIN!”

    “This cynical self-serving self-publicist is rapidly sailing to the outer shores of contempt. He’s abandoned his constituency to do a talk show four nights a week. As I keep insisting he’s been invisible in Bethnal Green since the start of the year.

    He had to give away tickets for his one man show in Hackney. His appearance on Big Brother pissed off all but his most ardent sycophants in Respect last year. Now he’s trying to compete with the horrifying Russell Brand. He’s “guest presenting” the post-show “analysis” of Big Brother on E4 in a studio full of shrieking morons. “Does this one deserve a spanking and should her make up be removed?” He’s lapping it up and getting ready to bank another couple of grand for the pension fund. Other heavy hitting guest presenters will include the cerebral Peaches Geldof and the utterly brilliant, charming and witty Chris Moyles.”

    This is the same Big Brother that lost a major corporate sponsor which didn’t want to be associated with the programme’s racist bullying.

    He’s also got a radio programme coming up featuring “forthright thinkers” like Neil and Christine Hamilton. Here’s what it’s about:

    What would you do if you could impose ten rules on the universe? Which maxims would you have everybody else live and die by? We’ve invited some of our nations most forthright thinkers to talk us through their very own Ten Commandments.

    Check out what George Galloway’s thinks as well as programmes from John McCririck, Neil & Christine Hamilton.

    It’s revolting but I’m sure he’ll mention the war and that’ll make it alright. Now I understand what Gusty Spence said when asked his opinion of Ian Paisley.”

    Another eulogy of Galloway from Liam (entitled “That Joker’s Not Funny Anymore!”

    “When he was looking to get elected George Galloway put in a lot of hours speaking at meetings in the constituency. He did a couple on this estate and he was terrific. If things work out he won’t be doing any of those for a while. He has got himself a TV show on Rupert Murdoch’s SKY 187 from Monday to Thursday. Respect is encouraging its members to support the venture.

    There is a meeting on my estate this evening to start organising a campaign to stop it being transferred to an Arm’s Length Management Organisation (ALMO). Once upon a time inviting the MP to get involved would have been an obvious next step. I don’t think I’ll suggest that tonight.

    Anyone who dares suggest that he is subverting Murdoch’s “platform” and helping construct an ideological counter-hegemony can f*ck off back to the academy for sycophants. This is self serving pension planning.”

    “At the time he was looking to win the seat Galloway did a superhuman amount of it himself, showing a good understanding of how important it is. So did dozens and of other people. It involved speaking to working class community groups, union branches, anti-war meetings getting the message over that this was a political alternative to war and neo-liberalism. And people voted for him to be their MP on this basis.

    If he is doing four nights a week in a TV studio he is not going to have the time to do that anymore. This is a career choice.”

    “I’ll fess up (as I think they say in Hackney) to not having heard much of the speeches other than Oli Rahman apologising for George Galloway’s absence. He could have mentioned that £15 tickets were available at the Hackney Empire ten yards for anyone wanting to hear the absentee MP in a couple of weeks.”

    “The East London Advertiser this week carried a story about a junior doctor from Bethnal Green unsuccessfully trying to lobby his MP at the Houses of Parliament. Apparently you now have to pay to see him.

    The blurb below is taken from the Hackney Empire’s website. No one would mind this sort of extra curricular activity if there had been some evidence of the man’s presence in the constituency this year.”

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  5. More interesting here is Liam’s take on the faction of Respect he now alligns himself with:

    “Since everyone else with an interest in these things is discussing last Tuesday’s AGM of Tower Hamlets Respect I’ll add my opinion.

    The outgoing officers submitted a slate of candidates for the new committee. As is their right some members submitted an alternative slate. This slate aimed to replace some SWP members, chair Glyn Robbins and me. This would have been unproblematical had it not been for the fact that the candidate for chair had submitted application forms and paid the membership subs of forty-five new members.

    The officers judged that some of the new membership applications could not be accepted due to insufficient information. This caused an uproar which lead to the members of the alternative slate and their supporters refusing to enter the meeting.

    My resolution proposing that the meeting endorse an attempt to find a compromise and move to vote on the slate was accepted. A helpful amendment instructing the officers to resolve the matter was also passed.

    The real issue was the political conception of what Respect should be. In my view the alternative slate represented an attempt to limit the organisation to a pressure group in Tower Hamlets. The slate of which I was a part has some idea of the organisation developing into a national mass party. The differences between my views and those of the SWP are rather murky to the challengers.

    At the meeting George Galloway saw his function as being to articulate the feelings (opinions is too strong a word) of the challengers who refused to discuss the issues. This brought him into comradely but clear disagreement with the SWP members who argued principled positions about the probity of packing meetings and buying votes”
    http://liammacuaid.wordpress.com/2006/07/07/a-funny-sort-of-challenge/

    Did you read that? in July 2006, Liam is claiming that the section of Respect he supports packed meetings and bought votes!!

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  6. Anin, I recall the Weasels split from the Ferrets back last century, made a bally fuss, I seem to remember. Now they’re back anc forming a United Front of a Very Very VERY Special Kind as theorised by their greatest theoretician in the world of theory. I hear they have the Anonymice on board, too, so we all tremble at the patter of tiny paws.

    Remember the Great Lemming-Off-A-Cliff. Qoth he:

    “Neither Ferrets nor Weasels, but International Rodenthood.”

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  7. Liam the Lemming Avatar
    Liam the Lemming

    Last night I woke up atop Tony Cliff and his extended family. I just had to jump off that Cliff. The lesson of this story is…

    SPLAT

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  8. “I hear they have the Anonymice on board, too, so we all tremble at the patter of tiny paws”.

    Ahhh, but do the Anonymice have voting privileges, tendency rights and are they allowed to caucus? Important discussions to be have in the rodenthood.

    “Forwards comrades on four paws”!!

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  9. ANin just take things at face value. That will be better for your blood pressure.

    Adamski despite having the opportunity to watch some high class sycophancy I never really got the hang of it. I stand by what I wrote.

    Things change in real life. This does make it troublsome occasionally but we must learn to live with that. GG has committed himself to serious activity to rebuild the organisation. I could go in for a bit of self-righteous posturing or I can try to build a class struggle organisation with the people who want to do it. Which would you suggest?

    Read my account of the committee meeting to get a sense of the potential.

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  10. Very Interesting Lemming Avatar
    Very Interesting Lemming

    What about the lumps in the lemming stew? Will they all be battered into a unified paste? Will the Indispensible Soggy Group be given leave to cluster together? Will George let Alan be a Thornett in his side?

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  11. Very Interesting Lemming Avatar
    Very Interesting Lemming

    Liam recommends we take things at their face value. Karl Marx, on the other hand, said that if reality and surface appearances coincided, there would be no need for scientific investigation, in the physical world and the world of politics, economics and the rest of social relations. He also tells us that his new comrades want to build a class struggle organisation. Pull the other one. Yaqoob tells us that wage slaves and those who derive surplus value from them share the same interests. Yaqoob’s attitude towards the class struggle is the attitude of Proudhon. And you know it. Galloway paints a portrait of former Labour leader John Smith that is unrecognisable to all supporters of class struggle organisations. John Smith’s politics were indistinguishable from Eduard Bernstein’s. The Indispensible Soggy Group has dissolved itself into Galloway’s unappetising bourgeois broth. Let us know how it all turns out. Vomitting all round would be my guess.

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  12. Liam, the SWP argue that the split in Tower Hamlets was political over a right wing and a left wing conception of RESPECT. You yourself confirm this:

    “The real issue was the political conception of what Respect should be. In my view the alternative slate [THAT SUBSEQUENTLY BECOMES RESPECT RENEWAL – ED.] represented an attempt to limit the organisation to a pressure group in Tower Hamlets. The slate of which I was a part has some idea of the organisation developing into a national mass party.”

    You yourself, in your own words, confirm the claim of the SWP that the RESPECT RENEWAL lot liked to gerrymander, pack meetings, buy voters, vote-rigging etc.

    I also notice that perrusing the archives of your blog that the only elected representatives of RESPECT that you mention on the picket lines, attending demo’s like the ESOL one, the anti-property developers etc. are Cllr’s Rania Khan, Oli Rahman and Lufta Begum – 3 of the 4 breakaway councillors.

    You never see fit to mention Cllr Abjol Miah? Clearly you have to admit that 3 breakaway councillors were the most left wing and dedicated to grassroots class struggle?

    You even diss leading Tower Hamlets RESPECT Renewal chair, Azmal Hussain as being incompetent, bureaucratic and incapable of chairing a meeting (so why is he chair?)

    All in all, Liam, you seem to be in a little bit of a pickle!

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  13. Liam: “could go in for a bit of self-righteous posturing or I can try to build a class struggle organisation with the people who want to do it.”

    Trouble is that you yourself indicate that those in Respect Renewal represent mostly the non-socialist element. You also wrote in 2006:

    “At the meeting George Galloway saw his function as being to articulate the feelings (opinions is too strong a word) of the challengers who refused to discuss the issues. This brought him into comradely but clear disagreement with the SWP members who argued principled positions about the probity of packing meetings and buying votes”

    Trouble is isn’t it leading members of Tower Hamlets RESPECT Renewal that you are accusing of packing meetings and buying votes?

    Let me repeat that phrase, “buying votes”

    Is this really a good basis for a pluralistic, democratic, socialist, class struggle organisation? That small businessmen can buy votes?

    Strange that your analysis of the problems in Tower Hamlets Respect a year ago confirms the analysis put forward by John Rees?

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  14. Liam wrote:

    “Whose Lecherous Ramblings are this?” (The answer, Respect Renewal MP, George Galloway 6 months ago (in response to Galloway’s eyeing up of a Big Brother female contestant)

    “This comes from the Daily Record’s showbiz celebrity gossip columnist who also draws a MP’s reason for reasons that become more mysterious with every passing day. I know I keep droning on about him but this sexist, priapic drivel is inexcusable.”

    Strangely after the RESPECT Renewal conference when Galloway writes more sexism in his Daily Record column:

    “DON’T get me wrong, I’ve never been down on all Australians. Take Kylie Minogue. For a singer she’s always been not a bad looker.

    I voted with the majority for a change when her rear was the year’s champion sight. I even bought my woman Kylie’s range of underwear.

    But her ITV spectacular on Saturday was a flat as the coupon of a duck-billed platypus.

    With the sound down it was a good night in – though how those backing singers and dancers escaped without chilblains I’ll never know.

    But in stereo, it was a cats chorus. I don’t mind if “the greatest small country in the world” will use her iconic image to promote the games, but let us have the opening song sung by anyone rather than her. We should be so lucky.”

    Liam is very subdued on this blog in his criticism!

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  15. Quiet Sunday Adam?

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  16. The ferrets were very good in the anti-Polecats campaign though

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  17. But weren’t they agin it at the start until they saw the Stoat Party sticking it to the Polecats with gusto?

    A poem featuring a ferrret here:

    http://madammiaow.blogspot.com/2007/11/in-lighter-satirical-moment-splintered.html

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  18. neilwilliams1952 Avatar
    neilwilliams1952

    Nice post Liam.

    How about Part 2: United Ferrets decide to enter the London Ferret show not in the club section in a coalition with other Ferret Clubs from their part of the world but in the individal ‘Top Ferret’ section – I shall leave Liam to tell th rest of the story and what then happens to United Ferrets!

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  19. I was dismayed to find the vegetarian ferret lovers were snubbed!

    On a more positive note we had a good Green Left meeting today, ‘lets not witch hunt the bastards’ was one line I remember….this has no reference to the discussion here. You tend to get political fights in all sorts of political organisation about a variety of issues.

    More seriously the Ecosocialist International Network seems to be motoring ahead

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  20. Neil,

    I think the main problem tith the show was that some of the animals being shown were in fact mink.

    The United Ferrets couldn’t understand why this created a problem, because mink had been shown before and no-one had objected.

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  21. In fact, the most important problem for (some) ferret-fanciers is that United Ferrets is much bigger than all of the other pro-ferret organisations. Now you might think this would be an advantage – pooling as many resources as possible. You might even think that the reason United Ferrets were bigger than all the other organisations was because most ferret-fanciers had decided to join them. But I’m afraid that this means that you don’t understand pluralism. Pluralism is really important, because if too many people agree with each other, that’s undemocratic, because it means there are more of them than other people, and those other people are more important. Pluralism means that there should be lots and lots of different organisations, and the smaller the organisation, the more influence it should have. Particularly if they have experience of weasels as well.

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  22. That’s what I dont get the 180 degree turn on Galloway.
    Reeks of opprtunism and desparation. SSP was a principled democratic class-struggle party with accountable structure. PBs could join but it they had to compromise their beliefs. RR and old Respect is a rat bag of carreerists, left social deomcratic opportunists with seriously dodgy positions and behaviour.

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  23. Ferrets have a tendency to fight in a sack.

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