I’ve been mulling over the London mayoral elections in the swimming pool this week. Here are some thoughts.

The absence of a clearly identified left of Labour candidate in the London mayoral elections will disenfranchise all those who can no longer support the three major pro-capitalist parties. This is a significant constituency which comprises many of those who have dropped out of Labour Party membership in the last decade, Labour voters who can no longer give political support to a right-wing, pro-war, pro neo-liberal programme, large numbers of anti-war protestors, younger people who are starting to radicalise due to climate change and increasingly sections of public sector workers on whom Gordon Brown is imposing pay cuts.

The timing of the election is lucky for those of us trying to create a class struggle, socialist party. Northern Rock, Société Générale, rising food and energy prices, sub-prime mortgages in the United States and the lack of social housing provision in London are all strong agitational issues on which to fight a left of Labour campaign. With the right candidate and the right sort of approach it is possible to run a campaign which serves as a pole of attraction in working class communities and organisations for those who are starting to suffer the effects of inflation, pay freezes and financial insecurity.

No left of Labour candidate is going to win such an election. At this stage that is not the point in standing. Without an explicitly socialist candidate, one who supports workers’ struggles and self-activity, there will be nothing to slow the move to the right in London’s politics. Livingstone’s anti-imperialism sets him apart from most prominent Labour Party figures. But that sort of rhetoric does not cost him anything politically these days. There is nothing in anything either Johnson or Livingstone has said recently to suggest that they will support restrictions on police powers, roll back the pervasive surveillance of London or commit to build the necessary numbers of social housing stock. A solution to London’s housing shortage requires precisely the sort of class-based attack on property developers that neither candidate has the stomach for. As for the police, Livingstone’s defence of Ian Blair shows where he stands. Even this thumbnail sketch of Livingstone’s current positions indicates how the absence of a countervailing pressure from the left will free him to shift ever closer to the New Labour mainstream.

Is it possible, as several supporters of Respect Renewal maintain, to call for support for Livingstone while arguing the need for an independent presence on the Assembly which will be able to back Livingstone against the Tories and Lib Dems when he is right, and put pressure on him from the left when he is wrong?

Declaring that your organisation is unwilling to stand against him because he is the only alternative to the Tories is an admission of your own redundancy. Unless an organisation is willing to take an independent stand, even when it is in a minority, a figure like Livingstone will always be able to use the Tory demon as a reason for not disagreeing with him. As an option for building an independent left of Labour Party that is a strategy with serious flaws.

Livingstone is not so much its weakest link as New Labour’s strongest electoral card in London. If the party stood any other mainstream Labour figure identified with the its largely neo-liberal programme the Tories would definitely win. Whose responsibility is that? This goes some way to explaining why, as Andy has pointed out, a minority of Respect’s 61 371 first preference voters actually did give a second preference for Livingstone in 2004.

Most of the arguments in favour of supporting Livingstone could be used in the United States to justify voting for the Democrats. They are marginally less vile than the Republicans. They are supported by the overwhelming majority of progressive opinion and the represent the political consciousness of much of the trade union movement and the working class electorate. The result is that the Democrats are the major obstacle to a working class party in the US.

There is a process of political recomposition taking place in Britain at the moment. Respect Renewal is its most recent development. By abdicating the right to stand a credible candidate opposed to those of the three pro-capitalist parties, even one with as contradictory a record as Livingstone, we would immediately be putting limits on Respect Renewal’s development. If the Labour candidate were someone with a real commitment to class struggle, like John McDonnell the issue would be completely different.

In the real world the question is whether or not a credible left of Labour candidate exists. According to her website “Lindsey German, the convenor of the Stop the War Coalition, was selected last year at a meeting attended by over 300 London Respect members to stand as Respect candidate for London Mayor. She will be battling the mainstream parties once more to establish a London wide left wing alternative.” Credibility can be a little bit tricky to define but you usually know it when you see it. Lindsey German’s credibility as an election candidate rests more on her leading role in the anti-war movement than on any laurels earned in Respect. For those of us who are keen to see a serious socialist challenge to Livingstone’s New Labour politics comrade German’s campaign will have to quickly establish itself as being one which is inclusive, actively seeking to build alliances on the left and with working class organisations and which can persuade those who want to vote for her that it wants to be more than a three month bout of hyperactivity. An obvious first step is to start assembling a range of supporters and endorsements from outside the rather narrow field it currently appears to have.

 

40 responses to “A left of Labour candidate”

  1. I agree with much that Liam contribution in particular the weakness of those arguing against a left candidate outside new labour in these elections. This is the crucial point.. if we accept the logic of those arguements the treat oft he tories winning can be used time and time again. Also to justifiy this it seesm KL fundemental weaknesses are either downplayed or ignored and in soime cases denied. An open campaign is needed. on clear socialist politics.

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  2. ‘it wants to be more than a three month bout of hyperactivity’…..German’s campaign will be exactly that.The SWP leopard does not change it’s spots nor does it show it is capable of learning to change.

    Liam , you seem to have omitted to mention German’s role as part of the SWP high command in the Respect split.I’m not quite sure what you are trying to square here or is it a cumbersome triangulation of sorts…..?

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  3. x factor
    if your starting point is no support for german as you disagree with her over the split then I take it you don’t disagree over KL neo liberal economics, defence of racist policing and scabbing on the underground which call me old fashioned seems a bigger crime than anything Lindsey German ever done!!! time to get some perspective I think.

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  4. The election is an opportunity to propagandise against neo-liberal New Labour. The campaign will last for the duration of the election. German is not standing as a vanity project. She is a socialist who has a long record of working with many on the left who she may also disagree with politically. This is no barrier to supporting her campaign. It will be based on political issues that are in the interests of workers not on German’s political affiliations or personality.

    German would not stand unless she had a commitment to building opposition to neo-liberalism and in the process building Respects profile. The Respect project is about building a broad left alternative to Labour. The SWP has commited itself to this project and that’s why German is standing.

    Revolutionary socialists have no illusion in the parliamentary road to socialism. Without the growing commitment on the left to build an alternative to Labour and the growing disgruntlement among workers towards neo-liberalism there would be little point in standing Respect candidates at this moment in time. The arguement that the SWP is using the election to recruit does not grasp the reality of building a revolutionary party. It’s very difficult to recruit people to revolutionary socialism through intermittent bourgeoise elections. Winning people to socialism takes patient debate that cannot be replicated by the election process. This is one of the reasons socialists have no illusion in bourgeoise democracy – it does not address the political issues of workers and once elected candidates are not recallable so they can renege on their promises.

    This election will provide an opportunity to raise socialist politics and the profile of the left. Even when workers vote for Respect this is just an initial stage in drawing them towards the left and socialist politics. It would be remiss of socialists if we squandered this opportunity to campaign and vote for German who is a credible left candidate.

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  5. The thing about thinking in swimming pools is you have to make sure the water doesn’t seep in between the ears.

    Is Lindsey German “a credible candidate” for Mayor? We know she hasn’t a cat’s chance in hell of winning, so the answer is obviously ‘no’. So Liam and his cdes want to vote 1 for Lindsey “with their heart” and 2 for Ken “with their head”. The fact that you are putting Livingstone as number 2 still means you are politically supporting him comrades, otherwise you would vote only Lindsey German as 1.

    So maybe the purpose is to build the “left of Labour” organisation through the voting tactic and the campaign. But think this through. You campaign for Lindsey, SWP-Respect, for Mayor, but then you tell people NOT to vote for SWP-Respect for the GLA and not to join them either. Instead you tell them to vote for and join Respect Renewal. Confused? Voters will be.

    And all the time Lindsey German and SWP-Respect is telling people not to vote for or join the “splitters of Respect Renewal”.

    Meanwhile George Galloway is going round telling people not to vote for LG but to vote for “Red Ken” and to take no notice of the people in RR who are saying otherwise. And of course Livingstone is going around telling people not to vote for the bunch of “splitters and loony lefties led by George Galloway and Lindsey German”.

    Hands up anyone who thinks this nonsensical merry-go-round is going to convince anyone?

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  6. Stuart King poses the question: “Is Lindsey German “a credible candidate” for Mayor? We know she hasn’t a cat’s chance in hell of winning, so the answer is obviously ‘no’.”

    So this is the only sensible definition of credibility, is it? By such logic, explain why you supported Socialist Alliance candidates standing when you knew they never had a cat in hell’s chance of actually winning. .Explain why Lenin suported standing CPGB candidates standing against the Labour Party in safe Labour seats: in other words where he not only knew they had no chance of winning, but took this as something positive that had to be taken advantage of. Was Lenin self-indulgent, as you would seem to imly? Or was his definition of credible more flexible, more Marxist?

    You add:

    “The fact that you are putting Livingstone as number 2 still means you are politically supporting him comrades, otherwise you would vote only Lindsey German as 1.”

    Given a straight choise between Livingstone on the one hand and Johnstone on the other, it is ok to choose the lesser evil. Trotsky’s condemnation of the Stalinists in German, who refused to choose between shades of alleged fascism proves there is no principle involved here. When Lenin denounced the British ultra-left who refused to choose between the Labour Party as against the Tories and Liberals, again, he denounced the idea that when presented with an unpleasant choise, abstention in every case commend itself. Given the specific circumstances we find ourselves today, there is no question that socialists cannot abstain from the choise between Livingstone and Johnstone. However, the electoral system does not require submitting to this choise, and only this choise. Lenin knew it was essential for revolutionaries to use parliamentary elections to engage in a dialogue with the class. The first-past-the-post system forced him to recommend selectively standing candidates in safe Labour seats. The electoral system for London Mayor presents socialists with a different option. If you want to write Livingstone, and New Labour’s GLA candidates, a blank cheque, that is your right. Don’t expect Marxists to follow your example.

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  7. For socialists the question is simple. Do we vote for a social democrat who supports neo-liberal policies (Livingstone) or a socialist who is campaigning for workers rights (German)? If you follow the tradition of Lenin, Trotsky, Luxembourg then vote German. If you support neo-liberal social democrats then vote Livingstone. It ain’t rocket science.

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  8. But Ray as Lindsey says in this weeks SW:

    “I have many points of agreement with Ken Livingstone – his anti-racist and anti-imperialist policies are a credit to London … I will be calling on all my supporters to give Ken my second preference.”

    Maybe there are a few spots on the sun, but this appears to be a ringing endorsement. Or, as Lenin, Trotsky and Luxemburg, would have put it, an opportunist painting up of a reformist as a radical anti-imperialist and anti- racist.

    Yes Paul, “credible candidate” can have different meanings. The Socialist Alliance was a start of a process to unite the left around building a fighting socialist and workers alternative to Labour. Its election votes were only ever one measure of that success. The two Respects are the fag end of that process – one that failed. Neither are “credible” and the votes they get in London, the main reason for these electoral coalitions existance, will prove it.

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  9. I can see one very practical reasons for standing for mayor, namely you get your election address printed in a booklet to be distributed to all voters in London.

    I dont know the strength of the left in London nowdays- but will London comrades be able to leaflet more than a fraction of the home in London- especially with a late start to the campaign for the left – if not, the investment in a possibly lost deposit for the mayoral elections will hopefully be worth the election of a GLA Member on just 5% of the vote in London. Although I think any left canddiate on the GLA list will poll 20% in Newham and Tower Hamlets- if you are polling 2% in Harrow and Bexley or whatever it will not be enough to get anyone elected. Therefore- the need to get into the mayoral election booklet whatever

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  10. I don’t see a contradiction in socialists calling for a second vote for Livingstone as long as we take this opportunity to campaign for German so that we can propagandise in favour of socialist politics in order to build a broad left alliance. The issue of winning elections and getting a huge vote is not something Lenin considered essential when standing against social democrats. We have no illusions in bourgeoise democracy.

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  11. But what did Lenin want to engage in a diaologue with the class about?
    Lenin advocated the use of elections to engage in a dialogue with the class about revolutionary socialism.
    Will German use the elections to raise such questions? Of course she won’t. In fact we know that the very idea she could do so is derided by her supporters as amounting to advocacy of a “workers militia”.
    Instead her platform will be a “broad left” one i.e. wishy washy populsim dressed up as something more than it really is.

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  12. Fortunately we no longer have to wait for confirmation; here’s German’s platform – not a word about socialism – or even taxing the rich. Presumably that’s “ultra-left”.
    http://electrespectcoalition.org/index.php?option=com_docman&Itemid=27

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  13. i doubt the swp-respect campaign will be very left-wing, even now it’s the swp alone. the programme wont be as class orientated and socialist as we might like but better than ken!

    in the absense of any other candidate on the left, i would propose a vote for her.

    livingstone is ‘anti-imperialist’ we are told! yet imperialism in the form of the british state and the massive multi-nationals continue to be very at home in london, and they are fairly happy with ken in power as well! how ironic.

    you can’t be really anti-imperialist and yet reconciled with the capitalist system.

    you also can’t oppose racism effectively without advocating a united class struggle for socialism. liberals oppose racism in words only but fail to understand its basis for existance in class society. their liberal anti-racism is ineffective.

    i understand why many will vote livingstone 1 or 2, in the same way as i understand why many american workers and minorities will vote for obama or clinton. i DONT advocate this strategy though.

    this is pure lesser evilism and gets us nowhere in the long term.

    ks

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  14. What is lesser evilism?
    It is less evil to have a Mayor from the Labour Party than from an out and out bourgeois one.
    Labour retain their links to the working class both through the constitutency who vote for them and their links to the labour movement, principally the trade unions.
    They are not a bourgeois party in the sense that the Democrats are in the US.
    Hence it is principled to vote for them – the issue is it tactically sound as well – and I would certainly say it is – workers continue to have illusions in Labour which are best exposed in office.

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  15. Oh dear, how much like the far left this is.
    The world is unfortunately not as we might wish it to be.
    We are not living through the heady times of Lenin and Trotsky in pre-revolutionary Tsarist Russia. Maybe some wish we were living in 1917 and how much better we would be than them. We could Lindsey and George and RR and RSWP candidates for the Duma against the muddleheaded bolsheviki! We are so much more knowledgeable than they after all.

    Reality is that we have a b ourgeois workers party in power implementing nasty right wing policies with a maverick social democrat mayor surrounded by a dodgy enclave of followers who were once in the IMG

    I still think that despite Kens dodginess he is more credible than Lindsey G.

    Mike

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  16. jj I call you old fashioned for making such assumptions

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  17. pierre gauloises Avatar
    pierre gauloises

    What fuss
    The situation is simple as far as I can see:
    Livingstone is the labor candidate and greatly influenced by Pabloism?
    Nevertheless he is infinitely better than the left of the lefts of the true Pabloites in the ISG.Galloway is a stalinist and the ISG has become the conveyor belt for stalinism transposed through the labor movement.
    Now the time is not right for an independent working party as in France

    JP

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  18. What you got up to in the swimming pool Liam makes the mind boggle a great deal. Well, it makes my mind boggle. Maybe you swalled a bit too much chlorine or something……So ,we rightfully take issue with the SWP over the way they carried on in Respect using it as yet another SWP front for their own purposes, picking it up and dropping as it suited them according to when it was election time and now , you as someone who split with the SWP within Respect ,is asking for people to vote for the SWP-Respect candidate who is doing precisely what they did before ie opportunistically standing on a SWP- Respect political platform at elections time.

    Is this some kind of bizarre Socialist Outlook scheme to bring about reconciliation between the two warring respects in the hope(less) belief it will herald the dawning of a new age of forgivenness and the ultimate goal of Respect Reunited.

    While I’m all for the Left coming together in unity,it begs the questions: What is the Left? Who is the Left? I struggle to accept the SWP as a CREDIBLE organisation, their theories and analyses at times may have some merit but their political practice deserves nothing but contempt .Time to give the SWP WRECKERS A WIDE BEARTH

    Crucially, the only way of maintaining credibility for Respect Renewal is for RR to stand a mayoral candidate in alliance with the Left in the trade unions, the Labour movement and community organisations opposed to and exposing the reactionary neo liberal, big business, anti trade union policies of Not so Red Ken and making a genuine case for well thought through relevant popular Socialist policies and politics.

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  19. Correction: ‘swalled’ is ancient form of what we now know to be called ‘swallowed’

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  20. We are not living through the heady times of Lenin and Trotsky in pre-revolutionary Tsarist Russia…….Ping! (that the penny dropping)……thanks Mike……………….it….. all……… becomes……… so……… much………… clearer…now .

    Why didnt anyway say this before? There again. Are you sure? What kind of Lefty are you? What do you mean we are not living through the heady times of Lenin and Trotsky in pre- Revolutionary Tsarist Russia. Oh! those were the days I thought they’d never end… oh no that was the sixties and Mary Hopkins…Where were we, again? Where are we then? Mike , Where do you think we are?

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  21. There is never a guarenteed vote by socialists for social democrats such as Labour. A vote for Livingstone is a vote for big business and scabbing. Vote German who is THE left candidate in this election.

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  22. For those of us who have been through the recent events in Respect LG is strongly associated with the political methodology that destroyed the organisation. That is problematical for us but is not likely to be a consideration for potential voters, a few of whom do not share our interest in the subject.

    On past form it is a bit of a long shot that the SWP will be able to build a campaign that is capable of being a pole of attraction for the non Labour left. Though hope springs eternal.

    What such a candidacy will do is provide a socialist candidate to give a leftward pressure on Labour and a person to vote for if you find Labour too right wing. The candidacy has to be seen as part of a long term creation of a new party rather than an end in itself.

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  23. x factor appears to think the crime of falling out with GG and his lot worse than calling on workers to scab and defending the head of t he met when he defended the racist murder by the cops.
    Its just back on planet earth x some of us have certain priorities.

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  24. But LG isn’t standing as a socialist candidate. Isn’t that a fundamental problem?

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  25. “The candidacy has to be seen as part of a long term creation of a new party rather than an end in itself.”

    This is exactly what it is. Revolutionary socialists have no illusions in recruiting via the election process. Unless the left outside of Labour (are there still any on the left in New Labour?) use every available opportunity to propagandise and to campaign for the interests of workers then we are failing to relate to the class.

    There is not going to be agreement about the split in Respect which is strongly associated with the political methodology of Galloway and his supporters that nearly destroyed the organisation. 😉 There’s no point taking the political high ground because, let’s be realisitic, neither side are going to agree at this point or probably ever.

    Socialists need to get on and attempt to build where we can and this election is an ideal place to start. The aim is that as workers are drawn towards the left this will help build the left alliance that we all want. Sitting on our hands and stewing over past internecine grievances, however tempting that is, will mean we are not relating to workers and accordingly we will miss opportunities to rebuild the left.

    Rebuilding the left is a huge project, possibly unrealisable unless there is a significant shift in class conciousness, but we have little choice but to play our part in that shift if we want to fight neo-liberalism and put forward the arguement for socialism.

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  26. A clarification about what I wrote. When I said neither side can agree I’m talking about the reasons for why the split occured. We can still agree to work together on other issues such as Germans campaign or other activities that promote a left alternative to Labour. If a left alliance does grow the reality is that we are still going to have political differences. Every organisation and individual involved should be aware that this is an inevitable outcome of an alliance. This doesn’t preclude us working together though.

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  27. What should be apparent from my line of argument is that the comrades involved in running LG’s campaign need to do some hard thinking about how they have managed to alienate the bulk of the people with whom they have been working for the last few years.

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  28. I think this is another area that we will have to disagree on because I don’t believe the bulk of Respect have been alienated.
    That doesn’t mean that all of us haven’t learnt from this unfortunate event. One lesson is that there will always be a pull towards labourism within a left alliance whose focus is on parliamentary gains. It’s quite possible that any future alliance will experience splits but this doesn’t mean we abort the mission.
    Rank and file union membership of an alliance is very important and I think that the low level of union involvement in Respect is one of the reasons why it wasn’t able to contain the inevitable disagreements over political strategy on this occassion.

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  29. I should add revolutionary socialists are wise to have no illusions of recruiting via this election process. Given that German mentions neither in her election leaflet.

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  30. jj says ‘ x factor appears to think the crime of falling out with GG and his lot worse than calling on workers to scab and defending the head of t he met when he defended the racist murder by the cops.
    Its just back on planet earth x some of us have certain priorities’

    JJ….
    Your point is based on pure conjecture and is based on what you have purposefully mis interpreted / misconsrued from what I have said or not said.

    Might I suggest that you ‘appear’ to be conforming to a very common problem on the left of simply dismissing and ignoring what somone says,not actually listenning correctly to what someone is actually saying.It’s called arrogance. Perhaps you might serve your own interests better, whatever they are, by try sticking to what people actually write and say.

    JJ…. believe it or not some of us who actually live on earth as well, are actually trying to work out what some of the Left are trying to articulate and are for the life of us trying to follow the amazing ongoing fluid circus show of acrobatics, with the somersaults , back flips and star performances of what constitutes Respect Renewal, Socialist Resistence and the SWP and the Respect Reunited and divide process of mass contradictions and try to make sense of what exactly is actually going on……. a not unreasonable desire.

    This doesnt in any way imply that I agree with or support the neo liberal , big business,anti trade union, pro MET politics of not so Red Ken and to suggest otherwise is simply ridiculous .

    It would appear that your comments are merely a poor attempt at trying to draw attention away from this ongoing shambles of Respect Renewal, Socialist Resistence and the SWP regarding the London Elections.

    For there to be a split Left vote in GLA elections in some London borough’s where the fascist racist BNP has strong support is completely insane as appears to be the case of what might be happening in City and London (see Socialist unity blog)

    jj please do inform us as to what your ‘certain priorities’ are exacly on planet earth.

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  31. Article by Andy Newman from Socialist unity blog

    SWP-REESpect are planning to stand against the official Respect candidate Councillor Hanif Abdulmuhit, who was selected in June 2007, for the GLA constituency seat of City and East London.

    Newham Councillor Hanif Abdulmuhit is a member of Respect, he has not been expelled nor has he resigned. Legally and constitionally Respect Renewal is a platform within Respect, as allowed by the constition. No constitional body within Respect has deselected Hanif as a candidate, and therefore there is no vacancy for a candidate.

    Yet in an incredibly sectarian move SWP member Jackie Turner has today sent out an e-mail calling for nominations for the SWP to stand against Hanif, having arranged a candidate selection meeting for City and East constituency. She has written:

    “Please note the City and East candidate selection meeting on Sunday Feb 24th, venue to be confirmed. Please put this date in your diary NOW! Please send nominations with seconds to me by midnight on Thursday 21st February. “

    Following the recent decision by the Electoral Commission that Respect Renewal supporter Linda Smith remains the nominations officer, any candidate selected by the SWP cannot use the Respect name on the ballot paper. The City and East London constituency contains not only Tower Hamlets and Newham, but also Barking and Dagenham where the BNP have a strong electoral base, so it is incredibly irresponsible for the SWP to be splitting the anti-facist vote.

    Hanif Abdulmuhit (pictured) is a first class candidate who has vowed to fight to represent all those excluded by Blair and Brown’s New Labour. He says:

    “We need a party in East London that puts people before profit. New Labour has turned its back on its own supporters, whether by invading Iraq or in refusing to solve the housing crisis.

    “Respect stands for investment in council housing, including new build, and keeping public services in public hands – where they belong. We want to use the Greater London Assembly for the voices of those millions of ordinary Londoners excluded by New Labour and its pals in the City of London.

    “It’s obscene that while a few bankers receive multi-million pound bonuses, thousands of families are in over-crowded housing and child poverty is on the rise. There’s enough wealth in our city for decent healthcare, education and housing for all. We need to tax those who can afford it to provide quality public services.”

    Respect MP for Bethnal Green and Bow, George Galloway, backed the members’ choice, saying, “Hanif Abdulmuhit is an excellent councillor and will be just the man to stir up the back-slapping torpor at City Hall. Londoners deserve better than New Labour timeservers.

    “He showed his mettle after the bungled Forest Gate police raid in 2006, rallying support for the innocent men attacked, and their families. He’s a real tribune of the oppressed.”

    Hanif Abdulmuhit was elected as councillor for the Newham ward of Green Street West in the elections of May 2006.

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  32. It is not quite true that there is no mention of socialism on the ‘Lindsey 4 London’ website, it is mentioned, but only to pooh pooh the idea.

    She proudly reprints her Guardian comment is free piece where she criticises Livingstone’s advisers for believing they could create a “socialist city state”. No such utopian nonsense from our Lindsey, as she declares “No local government body can effect the social transformation needed to achieve this”.

    Presumably she thinks this discovery frees her from raising socialism or any policies that would actually challenge capitalism in London and the City. Instead we get old style Labour reformism being proposed – more houses, cheaper transport etc

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  33. The logic of a “socialist city state” is not the utopian fantasy of social democrats but the Stalinist dictat of socialism in one country. Stalinism is hardly a discovery by German but a historical tyranny drenched in the blood of socialists.

    German explodes the myth that utopian or Stalinist conceptions of socialism are possible and she is accused of dropping her politics. Bread and butter issues for workers such as housing and cheaper transport are being characterised as reformist. I wonder what those accusing her of this believe a socialist should campaign for?

    The only concrete proposal they are offering is a vote for the fat cat & police loving Livingstone.

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  34. In my opinion socialists get themselves in a bit of a mess over elections.

    Where the vast majority of workers are not revolutionaries then it is clear that we have to organise with workers who are prepared to take action, normally defensive action over jobs or conditions, and in the process of united action argue that the working class has the strength and capacity and creativity to organise the economy and society for ourselves- to expropriate the capitalists and run things truly democratically on the basis of workers’ control.

    In elections, this may mean where we have sufficient forces standing if such an election campaign helps identify, focus, galvanise and organise workers’ resistance. Socialists then normally get confused on what program should we stand- many arguing like that to stand on the full revolutionary program would be too abstract and cut off from the class.

    Indeed it is all too easy to imagine the sort of campaign that would precisely be abstract- conducted as a literary exercise in revolutionary jargon and terminological code completely cut off from workers’ lives and garnering in all likelihood only a few hundred votes and being completely disconnected from the class struggle. The problem is, though, as soon as we start to dilute the program or message you are advocating lying to the class, fudging the issues, where as what we need is clarity.

    Part of the solution seems to me to stand on a fighting program of key action points- identified by mass meetings in which workers debate out and vote on key policy points- in which socialists stand on a clearly and open revolutionary program, but one related to the everyday and expressed needs of workers. It seems perfectly plausible that a revolutionary involved in the day to day class struggle could win such a candidacy.

    But it is not of course in the current climate that likely. Where a fighting reformist wins on a left program that whilst not explicitly revolutionary nevertheless identifies and mobilises a section of the class in struggle socialists should throw ourselves into such a campaign whilst being entirely open about our criticisms and what is necessary- to organise extra-parliamentary class struggle in the workplaces and communities against capitalism and win workers to the ideas of communism and workers’ power.

    There will of course be many times when the majority of political worker have illusions in the mass workers’ social reformist parties and then in the absence of being able to win workers to an independent revolutionary candidate socialists should say vote Labour and organise to fight. I think Stuart puts the classic case well here and to some extent political working class Londoners will support Livingstone against Johnson and therefore I can understand and am drawn to Stuart’s position – vote Livingstone but organise to fight, to fight capitalism, including the privatisations and other pro-capitalist measures, such as support for repressive policing, that Ken is party to and part of.

    However, when a large section of politicised workers hate Labour and rightly identify Ken with Labour’s betrayal it does at least complicate things. Is saying vote Labour albeit with impeccable revolutionary credentials going to relate to these workers and help further their organisation- those workers who are angry at New Labour but not won to revolutionary politics? Not in any easy way. But how can we relate to them anyway? German is not a candidate of struggle in the sense I articulate above but a section – probably a vey small section I guess, perhaps only five or ten times the size of the SWP, perhaps even less may vote for her. But is her campaign a diversion? In the sense that it neither fights for open socialist politics but instead a vague vacuous mish-mash mushiness of ‘socialism’ of which even Neil Kinnock would have been proud and that it does not connect with workers’ burning needs or their struggles in at all a dynamic way, then yes it is. But in the absence of anything else some class conscious political militants will be drawn in to it.

    And what about the many workers who repelled by the Tory Boris will nevertheless vote Ken. How should we relate to them?

    We should be arguing that elections are not the most important thing, the be all and end all of politics. Far more important is organising to fight whoever we vote for or don’t vote for. Let’s organise the rank and file in the unions, support workers in struggle, support working class community campaigns against privatisation, against imperialist war and climate catastrophe and win people to the ideas of socialism that way.

    Nevertheless elections are not irrelevant. They are times of heightened political consciousness and can pose for some workers question about who rules and how should we govern, posing the questions of ownership and power. Where communist candidates such as German come forward we should demand that she puts her policies to mass meetings, gets involved in the campaigns and struggles and puts her ideas to the test of debate and votes. She won’t. But that shouldn’t stop us from demanding it. And when she doesn’t it will help expose the limitations of her campaign.

    And we should be open to all workers about why voting Livingstone is not the same as organising for socialism why he is a class traitor and why we should be voting for socialist candidates and more importantly organising right here and right now in our workplaces and estates for socialism.

    SO I’m inclined to a position of reversing the order and adding a phrase to of our classic position. Instead of Vote Labour but organise to fight: Organise to Fight, Vote Livingstone or German if you want but whoever you vote for or not, organise.

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  35. snappy. that’ll show ’em.

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  36. Of course we continue to organise beyond this election but we can’t duck the debate over who to vote for. German is campaigning for issues that are important to workers in a political climate where the Labour left have been weakened by their belief in reformism and have now bought into neo-liberalism. Germans campaign is part of an attempt to build a left alternative to New Labour. Livingstone, on the other hand, is campaigning for his chums in the City. That’s why every socialist should vote German.

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  37. Planting the flag saying “you have to vote for LG” is not that much of a strategy. It would be interesting to hear what specific steps have been taken to broaden the campaign. The only more or less independent account I’ve seen of the launch meeting suggested all the bad old habits are still in place.

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  38. I’m not sure what you mean by bad old habits. The only way to broaden the campaign is to get involved.

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  39. Did anyone watch Frank Field on The Politics Show (BBC 1) today? He was arguing that the unemployed should receive only 4 weeks benefit and if they didn’t find a job should be left penniless. He resoundingly supported Flints call for evicting the unemployed from council housing. When challenged that social housing has been sold off so evicting the unemployed or withdrawing their benefits (which will cause them to become homeless) he could give no answer. In contrast, in 1975 he wrote Unemployment: The Facts and Poverty: The Facts while director of the Child Poverty Action Group.

    It’s horrifying how the brutal and dispassionate politics of neo-liberalism have permeated the whole of the Labour leadership and virtually every member in an elected position, including Livingstone. That’s why it’s essential that socialists make a stand against the neo-liberal politics of New Labour and support Germans campaign.

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