imageI’m currently watching The Wire for the second time and it’s quite a swear fest. “Motherf###” this” “sonofabitch that” and “dumbass f###up” the other. But no term of abuse comes close to expressing the primal hatred that the word “tout” has in the Irish political lexicon. It’s usually pronounced with a contemptuous spitting tone and connotes so much more than passing information onto the state. It carries the suggestion that the person so doing should immediately be made to suffer a long horrible death before their booby trapped body is left naked on a country road in a condition not suitable for an open coffin. So much history and passion in four letters.

It’s no surprise that the state has been recruiting informers in the environmental movement.The Guardian today reports that Strathclyde plod tried to recruit members of Plane Stupid to pass on information using a combination of intimidation and bribery. You have to admire the way they appeal to youthful idealism. “We have reason to believe that you care passionately about the fate of the planet. If we bung you a couple of hundred quid a month will you be a grass for us so that we can arrest your mates and allow the capitalists to carry on doing what they are doing? Otherwise how do you fancy some jail time?”

Well done to Maria Gifford and her lawyers for recording the conversations and going public with them.

The cops’ response has been robust. Their statement says they have “a responsibility to gather intelligence”. John O’Connor a former commander Scotland Yard who is developing into the media’s favourite pundit on the police was even blunter and took to the radio to describe the episode as “a storm in a teacup” and professed bafflement “to what this girl is complaining about”. For him there is no difference between running informers in a drug dealing ring, a group of aspirant suicide bombers or the environmentalists meeting in a squat to discuss planing flowers outside a nuclear power station.

A possibly apocryphal story relates how when the International Marxist Group moved into new offices there was a knock on the door one morning. A cop introduced himself and asked to speak to Mr X. Now by chance the previous owner of the property and the person who answered the door shared the same surname. The cop reminded Mr X that the station had an arrangement with him to allow them to use an upstairs room to watch IMG meetings in the pub across the street. He explained that he was taking over that duty and was checking that it would be ok for him to come later that evening. You can guess the rest.

If an organisation’s mission statement is the destruction of the bourgeois state, depriving Special Branch officers of a job by dismantling the repressive apparatus and creating a proletarian nirvana it can’t really complain if the state takes a passing interest in what it is up to. What Maria Gifford’s challenge to political policing does is pose the question of just how far the state is entitled to penetrate dissenting groups and who sets the limit. It’s pretty hard to distinguish between the weltaunschaung of the Daily Mail and political policing in Britain. It’s absolutely certain that they will have tried to recruit informers in Respect, no2eu, the Labour left plus as many of the environmentalists as they can corrupt or frighten.

To which the correct response is “to hell with them!” A fat lot of good it did the Stasi or the Securitate once millions of people get into politics.

13 responses to “Of course we run informers”

  1. is there some quality inherent to irish people that stops them being “touts”? get a grip, Liam comrade!

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  2. I think the press coverage of the police says more about the media that it does about the left or the police. We’ve always known that the cops routinely use violence against us, run paid informers, are generally liars and cheats, and spectacularly stupid ones at that. and of course that they are absolutely hopeless at catching crooks. What is a surprise is that suddenly all this is news.

    The bulk of the Hillsborough coverage a couple of weeks ago was not even about the poor policing on the day, but focussed on the subsequent cover ups and whitewash inquiries.

    To liam’s correct response of “to hell with…” informers, there’s a caveat that serious revolutionary organisations take reasonable steps to protect their own security. And also the need to assert just what we would do as socialists to replace the useless, crooked police.

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  3. It would seem incredibly naive not to expect to progressive and socialists organisation to be infiltrated – and vulnerable members leant upon and bribed.
    How much the to-date failure of the left in Britain – is due to this practice – difficult to estimate but no doubt strong element in fostering schisms.
    Just expect this – and get on with it.
    For steves information “there are many fine qualities inherent to irish people” and Irish people too.

    Tiocfaidh Ar La

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  4. I was recently hearing about the police infiltration of the (‘old’) WRP – at the leadership level, now proven apparently (or beyond reasonable doubt)

    Brian Mac what’s up? I am for the working people (working class), and recognise that there are all types among all peoples…. and i don’t agree that any qualities in any persons are there because of their “nationality” – whatever that’s meant to be!

    “our day shall arrive” – yeah but that’s not the day of the irish people, nor of ANY particular “people” – it can only mean of the working class, as James Connolly (confusedley) meant it…..

    Ah – you’re upset at my use of lower case for “irish”?!? sorry is a habit i use for adjectives (though i don’t use upper for nouns) – please pardon my inconsistency!

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  5. Comrade Steve R,
    You of course right there is but one struggle for all
    – including those who …use i for adjectives and upper for nouns.. (slightly beyond me – to be honest)
    And for gods sake – inherent qualities ?

    However your “inconsistency ” my pleasure to pardon.
    And in the words of another Internationalist and Irishman.
    “The great are only great because we are on our knees – let us arise”

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  6. Brian Mac, cwl x it’s adjectives in lower case, and “irish” is the adjective describing the Noun “People”….
    point is tho, the important differences in the world are about CLASS – relationship to the means of production and quite recently the Proletariat ie those described by Marx/Engels as being totally without property, owning only their power to labour which in the modern world is a commodity for sale on the market
    became a majority of the world’s population….

    and who said that about us being on our knees (most famously)? wasn’t it that “the Great only APPEAR great because we are on our knees….”?
    of course, the Great – if by that’s meant those that are in power, are great because they are in power!

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  7. Steve R(ight) Again,
    Ní uasal aon uasal ach sinne bheith íseal – Éirímis.
    And a lesson on grammar and class to boot.

    I remain forever grateful….

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  8. I have wondered how much of the failure of the left in Britain can be attributed to infiltration. Initiatives and attempts at left organisation go so far, then it is like a rug is pulled, a schism breaks out, etc.

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  9. @ Faust:

    it is the general experience (from Victor Serge’s account from the 1920ies to the cases of the last 20 years in Germany), that genuin infiltrators in leftist organizations are less involved in political, programmatical conflicts (because they are not really used to the “heights” of these debates), they generally try to get involved on a low profile as helpful people who often do a lot of “technical” stuff

    a general remark to all: don’t become paranoid!

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  10. Left-wing splits generally have at least an appearance of programmatic, political conflict, though the real reasons are often less lofty and may be down to personal animosity and, often, the spook manipulation I wondered about earlier.
    In Nazi Germany, the Gestapo often moved in and carried out a mass round-up once left groups (sometimes of different political backgrounds) looked like getting together, carrying out united actions etc.
    Paranoia is bad, but so is the chipper (“we’re OK, we’re totally legal” etc.) attitude. Elements of the state probably dislike anyone with a rounded oppositional ideology. That cop in Plymouth who justified the pre-G20 arrests because political literature had been found may have been more bone-headed than most of them, but I’m not so sure.

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  11. SteveR: is there some quality inherent to irish people that stops them being “touts”? get a grip, Liam comrade!

    I wouldn’t say there’s some inherent quality, as there have been plenty of touts throughout Irish history, it’s just that we’ve had more experience of it than most. Let’s remember that what we know today as Special Branch, MI5 and MI6 all grew out of the Special Irish Branch, which was originally set up to fight Irish republicans.

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  12. Hear, hear,
    Tis true
    Ciaran abu

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  13. […] Liam Macuaid has posted an excellent and informative piece on the revelation that the police run state agents in protest groups. […]

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