2009 was probably the worst year in the history of the Catholic Church in Ireland since the Penal Laws. Curious  to get the measure of what’s happening in parishes in the north of Ireland for the first time in very many years I found myself at 10 o’clock mass on Christmas morning.

Nestling at the seat of Divis Mountain sits Holy Trinity, the parish church of the Mac Uaid clan and which serves the spiritual needs of the assertively Republican Turf Lodge area. From the Catholic Church’s point of view the problem seems to be that most of the people of Turf Lodge don’t have too many spiritual needs anymore. My expectation was that the church would be filled to capacity but at 10’clock a generous guess would say that it was sixty percent full. The congregation’s demographic spread was not at all reflective of the local area. People of school age and those in their twenties, thirties and forties were massively under-represented and older people dominated. The days when the sons and daughters would be roused on a Sunday morning troop into Mass with a sore head are over. The most vocal of the younger participants were bawling infants. I’m certain that churches used to have special soundproofed rooms where they would spend the hour. If I were a regular mass goer I’d campaign vigorously to reinstate that tradition along with excommunication for numpties who don’t switch off their mobiles.

If you can set aside your scepticism about the theological claims of virgin births – a concept Catholics valiantly defend in the face of all the evidence about mistranslation – and coming back from the dead there was a fair bit that the priest said that was perfectly reasonable to even the most militant atheist. Before starting the liturgy he pointed out that giving love is much more important than giving material goods. Though on fuller reflection it would be a very brave ecosocialist or Christian parent on Christmas morning who said either “I didn’t get you the new mobile you wanted but here’s a five year old one that’s been reconditioned and works perfectly well” or “I didn’t get you those trainers but instead I’ll love you unconditionally.” He reminded the audience of that old Marxist standby when pointing out the evils of capitalism that maybe one person in three globally lives on a dollar a day and he asked the congregation to pray for those who cause violence and war. The rich and powerful nations. I think he was hoping for divine intervention to make them see sense. Good luck with that one.

One innovation they’ve introduced that most organisations would benefit from is having someone to welcome you as you enter though it can make you feel a bit guilty about your cynical motives for being there. An impressive continuity is the assertive mumbling of the Creed which summarises all the hard to swallow bits about the ceremony. Nevertheless two or three hundred people had committed to memory a text that was written in 325CE and were able to recite it without prompting.

It was only a snapshot but this morning’s ceremony confirmed that Irish Catholicism’s long term future as an organisation dominating people’s personal behaviour, social lives and ways of viewing the world is bleak.

Oddly enough it is the Irish and British governments which give the Church a lot of social weight. Both states allow it to run much of the island’s education system, where it does such a fine job educating young Catholics that most of them can’t be bothered going to Mass on a Sunday morning. Even you accepted the barmy argument that running a religious community gives you the right to educate children on the state’s behalf then the church attendance figures, especially in cities, make it utterly unsustainable today.

The church is no longer able to recruit the numbers of priests it requires for its infrastructure. More significantly the majority of people who identify themselves as Catholics feel little need to listen to what it has to say or any pressure to attend its ceremonies. This is not to say that it is going to vanish. Like any other religion it will retain a committed group of followers and a small number of clerics but it is facing a not too distant future when its flock’s relationship to it will be rather more like the Church of England’s to its communities.

12 responses to “Hollowing out – a Catholic parish”

  1. […]  Tony Greenstein picks up the story of the Viva Palestina convoy being blocked by Egypt. Liam Mac Uaid reports that convoy members are starting a hunger strike. Liam also has an interesting account of his visit to church on Xmas. […]

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  2. Im Brian and so is my wife Avatar
    Im Brian and so is my wife

    I am an atheist. I am also a Marxist. So I wouldnt waist my view on this shit.
    Why do you Liam?

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  3. A socialist wrote this in 1911,about religion.

    at all cost keep the gaze of the masses fixed upon the sky,the ideal world where they cannot see how they are robbed and oppressed;do not let them investigste the material word,where they would soon find the way to material salvation!such is the useful role of all religion to every ruling class.

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  4. Brian – when Martin Hurson died groups of people took to the street to recite the Rosary. That would not happen today. In 1981 some took this as evidence of the reactionary nature of anti-imperialist struggle in the north of Ireland. They were wrong.

    It is perfectly possible to be an atheist and want to understand how an organisation which held the passionate allegiance of millions of people for centuries can see this evaporate in a few decades. That might involve going along to see what they do. It was an interesting way to spend 45 minutes.

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  5. “do not let them investigste the material word,where they would soon find the way to material salvation”
    I would like to reassure you that the average Roman Catholic is quite as capable of attending to their material needs as any non-believer. I have no doubt that in addition to attending Mass Liam’s parishioners would have stocked up in the supermarket, stuffed themselves on Xmas day after Mass and will be attending the sales this week. In terms of a relentless devotion to improving their material well being and a lack of interest in the hereafter I suppose the drug dealers in my neighbourhood come to mind, and I therefore suppose they are closer to socialist consciousness than the English, Irish, Polish and African Catholics in the area who simply try to work hard and live decent and honourable lives.

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  6. The needle or a belief both are addictive, to what extent is up to the individual.The needle believer finds solace from their existance in the euphoria of the high, others find solace in practice of their belief.If in both , their beliefs lead them to a better socialist consciousness i do not know.

    I was given a book of qoutes by a friend as a xmass gift,my belief system would not allow me to accept it,however i came to a compromise similar to ponscious pilot ,and washed my hands.And there was that quote in it,and in keeping with the Popes xmass message that had socialist leanings i thought it appropriate..

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  7. “i thought it appropriate..”
    Crappropriate, more like. The area where the church service Liam describes took place was at the epicentre of the only armed revolt the British state has experienced in the past 80 years. Whatever you think of Irish Republcanism it is not exactly a good example of religious belief promoting passive acceptance of the status quo, is it? Going back further you have James Connolly and Jim Larkin, Catholics who were of course notorious for their indifference to material deprivation and belief that nothing could be done about it. And today you have the Catholic masses of Latin America, sunk in apathy and indifference and completely incapable of mobilising for socialism. Just to be ecumenical about it, let’s also note that the most militant workers in modern US history have been the coal miners of West Virginia and Kentucky, fervent evangelical Protestants almost to a man.

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  8. Benedict continues to be riled up that some Jesuits are still trying to promote liberation theology, despite his attempts to erase that particular thorn in his side. I’m an atheist myself but don’t believe for a second that religious belief and progressive politics are somehow mutually exclusive.

    I grew up in the area mentioned by Liam above, and remember most of my Sunday mornings as a child were taken up outside the old church rattling a collection tin for republican prisoners, Irish language schools and probably a number of other causes that I’ve since forgotten. Good times.

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  9. Decent interval,did i mention anything about Irish Republicanism. Do you have a bee under your bonnet.

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  10. socialists looking down there nose at people going to church again. bar south america, one of the major mistakes the left made was leave religion to the right. socialists in europe and america would rather glory at there sopistication than recognise in the gospels a commonality and possibility to spead there message. i agree with the orignal poster that the culture of involvement in the church is gone or going so that opporunity has probably passed. but it was a waste, some people are motivated by religion to do amazing selfless things with the homeless, adiction etc, socialists didn’t loose them because they didn’t even try to fight for them. the right did and created new gods in the process and a way of viewing the world that needs the average youngster today to be blessed with the gift of tounges to understand the very basics of socialism.

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  11. The base of socialism is similar to that of christianity,and one could be given to the assumtion that christ in his action and words pathed the way for the socialist thought.

    As for the progressive right, and their creation of many christians religions that in most are segratory and intolerant ,does little to muster the flock.

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