Thank Christ that’s over for another four years. Here’s some musik to mark the occasion.
Tanzen und Singen
Thank Christ that’s over for another four years. Here’s some musik to mark the occasion.
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12 responses to “Tanzen und Singen”
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I love the Harmonia track – who are/were they? (And the Neu!, obviously.)
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Liam: “Thank Christ that’s over for another four years”
at least us football supporters can quietly enjoy the tournament in peace and not have to have tedious conversations about England with people who know nothing.
…on the other hand england going out means that ( ABUSE DELETED) mark perryman will be back to tell us how we have wasted out lives, and that we would all be better off buying his shit t-shirts and singing rule brittania.
MARTIN, THIS NEED OF YOURS TO BE PERSONALLY ABUSIVE TO EVERYONE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION TO YOUR OWN IS BOTH TIRESOME AND IN BREACH OF THE COMMENTS POLICY HERE. UNTIL THIS STOPS YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE MODERATED BEFORE THEY APPEAR. LIAM
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Phil, Harmonia are the usual suspects from that period of German music – Michael Rother of Neu! and Hans-Joachim Roedelius and Dieter Möbius of Cluster.
Buy Deutsche Elektronische Musik for a superb introductory compilation.
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Actually I find it quite a petty and annoying idea some on the left seem to hold that supporting a team means being patriotic- why?
I don’t think people should have to support England or any other team but neither is there anything remotely wrong with it as far as I can see.
Of course some who do support England will be patriotic and join in th enational anthem and all that crap and indeed the tabloid press would seem to suggest it’s all about patriotism- but they are wrong as they are on so many things.
Anyway I’ve transferred my support to Ghana now
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yeah yeah, whatever. I’ll never understand how your polite code means it’s ok to call people racists but not to call people arseholes, moreover I doubt there are many people who disagree with my assessment of the person named above.
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…particularly when you have a category on your site labelled “wankers” and you’ve used the same word yourself in postings and comments.
Perhaps you can publish a list of abusive words which are acceptable and those which aren’t
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I would have prefered Argentina beating England in the next round 😉
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Martin – in the event that Bono becomes a regular visitor to this site I might change the relevant tag. If you can direct me to the bits where allegations of racism were made I’ll remove them.
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“Actually I find it quite a petty and annoying idea some on the left seem to hold that supporting a team means being patriotic- why? ”
Jason, I don’t know what it is like where you live but near us a huge number of people appeared to be supporting the England team. There are hundreds of England flags on houses and cars in my neighbourhood and I count fewer than thirty German flags *
So, there are two possibilities- either all these people genuinely labour under the collective delusion that England is the best team (a disorder which does not seem to afflict people in other parts of the world) OR they support the England team simply because it is the team of their country. The latter proposition is quite simply a textbook definition of ‘patriotism’, is it not?*significantly fewer than 30, actually.
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Yersh. To mis-apply James Connolly’s comment, Ingerland’s appearances in the World Cup generally produce a “carnival of reaction”. Tabloids running headlines about World War Two, fans chanting Rule Britannia and God Save The Queen, the EDL spotting an opportunity for a little local rabble-rousing. Of course the Mini Gramscis tend to see this as “contested terrain”; but what do you expect from a bunch of over-excited eurocommunists who’ve been out in the sun too long drinking warm beer and cheering on a team that has become the poor little rich kid of world football? OTOH, it’s so much fun when they lose :o)
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I don’t think people should have to support England
But that is what many of the patriots do demand. Wishing to be able to have a different point of view doesn’t necessarily mean wishing to prevent anyone from supporting their national team just because it involves mocking them unmercifully.
Here’s a song about a football team that was cheated:
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robm- interesting point I suppose. But many people in Southampton support- funnily enough- Southampton (or they did when I lived there). And in Manchester (wjere I live now) many support Manchester City and a few (I am told) support Manhcester United.
In Ethiopia (where I also once lived) people mainly seem to have an atitutude to supporting teams in the world cup that mirrors the anti-imperialist unted front- support any colonised country against any Western coloniser (though African teams may come first).
I don’t deny that many times football is used as an excuse for hysterical patriotism- as Diego argues in the article linked to below
“In Chile being “next to the common people” and declaring “national unity” between the classes for a month while screaming and waving the national flag is something the bosses and government relish.”I’m sure if England had gone on the tabloid or Piers Morgan would have been full of similar crap.
I’m merely arguing that supporting England, however deluded it may be, is not in and of itself reactionary.
For an interesting account of football and politics see this article by a Chilean comrade Diego Mocar
http://www.permanentrevolution.net/entry/3087
some pretty shocking stuff on South Africa.As Diego argues, I think very convincingly
“Football is predominantly a working class sport that is enjoyed by billions of people around the world. But this World Cup does not represent these billions, but rather the interests of a small elite who have manipulated the beautiful game and have used this World Cup to make huge profits at the expense of the poor. “LikeLike
Liam redux 
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