Some combination of stupidity and steel hard Bolshevism yesterday compelled me to spend five hours travelling for a meeting whose useful business took about ninety minutes. Compared to the Ho Chi Minh trail and Guevara’s time in Bolivia the nuisance of a couple of people telling their callers that they were on the train is small beer.

The cabal which I attended normally meets every couple of months in London and is preparing a pamphlet for later this year and a national conference for next spring. When it meets in London fifteen to twenty people normally attend. As sure as the Earth turns someone always says “having these meetings in London isn’t fair for people who don’t live here.” This despite the fact that upwards of eighty percent of the people in the room live in the city.

At an earlier meeting the decision was taken to have yesterday’s in a major English city with excellent transport links to the rest of the country. What was the impact on attendance? Did dozens of fresh and eager new faces walk into the room saying “thanks for having this in a large urban centre roughly in the middle of England”? Hell no! Six people turned up, four of them from London, one from a nearby town and another who is so inured to travelling south that he’d rather have travelled the extra distance for a bigger meeting. Not one person from the major conurbation in which we met attended.

The lesson here is obvious. The next time some whining libertarian who never agrees to take away a task suggests having a meeting in a location which guarantees dramatically reducing the number of participants say “no”. Don’t even bother trying to explain that for even modest national campaigns it makes more sense to organise in the capital; that no bugger will turn up to a meeting in Dudley or Penzance; that the development of British capitalism has made London the biggest town with the largest number of political activists. Just say “no, that’s a bloody stupid idea that has never worked any time it’s been tried.”

Here’s a great song which makes fine use of the kazoo by a band which took its name from a place where radical meetings are less rare than useful suggestions from whining libertarians.

 

12 responses to “Londoncentric”

  1. So you will be in Birmingham for the Hugo Blanco meeting next saturday.

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  2. BTDT, more or less – except that I was the steel-hard Bolshevik who spent five hours on British Rail for a morning meeting once a month, I was the one who moaned about it and what we did in response to my moaning wasn’t to move the monthly meetings (even I could see that would be insane) but to reschedule an evening meeting from Thursdays to Fridays. With the result that slightly fewer locals attended than expected, plus one comrade from out of town, viz. me. Oddly enough the topic of the meeting was nationalism & in particular sub-British nationalism, a topic I was particularly keen on at the time. I argued the line that some form of radical English nationalism (a) was needed and (b) would need to be developed outside London, because London is not only the capital of Britain but is so out of proportion to any other English city that it and its hinterland are practically a country in themselves. Nobody else really agreed, partly because my argument was incoherent and sounded a bit dodgy, but mainly because they were all fackin Londoners weren’t they?

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  3. Agree absolutely – and I live 300 miles north of London!

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  4. Perhaps join a slightly bigger cabal (or in Cde.Snowdon’s case, not get expelled from one)? As the saying goes about Russian Marxism, if you’d all fallen into a canal that would have been the end.

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    1. All bar one of the other people present are still very active members of Alex’s former team.

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  5. Back in the day when I was excited about national meetings, I had the realisation that I now knew more revolotionary socialists in London than ordinary people in my own locality.

    That seemed a bit problematic, and thankfully Ive now reversed that

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  6. Good point, Danny.

    I think it can be a good idea to have gatherings, even national ones, outside of London and they are not always a flop. Of course it is not a principle but I can think of a couple of examples (admitteldy a little old but fatherhood whilst wonderful has somehwta disengaged me from active struggle or perhaps that’s a pathetic excuse)

    One was the Liverpool conference of trade unionists against immigration controls
    http://www.permanentrevolution.net/entry/1263

    Of course most of the time such meetings will and should be in London but not always I think

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    I think what Liam is talking about is a steering committee meeting, not a public event which would be built locally.
    I’m all in favour of having some ‘national’ events outside London in order to cater for a different audience but generally speaking accessibility for the greatest number (at the most realistic cost) should be a major consideration.
    I’d rather attend a meeting in London and get most of my train fare back from the pooled fare than have the meeting on my doorstep and have to pay a huge contribution to the pooled fare for the benefit of the hordes of well-heeled southerners coming up from the big city…

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  8. Why would anyone want to go to a meeting in London?

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  9. oh it was a steering committee meeting? surely if they don’t turn up they should just be shot? Libertarians.

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  10. We instituted a “miss two meetings and you’re off the committee” rule, although it was quite selectively applied (aren’t they all). What triggered it wasn’t general slackerism but somebody from the AWL getting elected to the committee and then never turning up at all – they clearly just wanted to see our minutes (no accounting for tastes).

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